Is there a 3rd Strike ROM from 30th Anniversary around? (Fatal bug fixed)

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    • I have a bunch of CDs. Is there a way to know which version it is without having to dump them all?

      I have:
      3x2nd Impact with text on the inner circle of the CD: CAP-3GA000
      1xSFIII:NG with text: CAP-SF3-3
      1x3rd Strike with text: CAP-33S-1
      1x3rd Strike with text: CAP-33S-2
      1xCAP-JJK000
      * Arcade-projects, the site where you get the most of your arcade games.
      * If you want Drama go to Neo-Geo forum ---Darksoft
    • Darksoft wrote:

      Is there a way to know which version it is without having to dump them all?
      TL;DR version is that the actual CD data is the same between regions... so when you rip them they crc32 the same. However the Japan Region discs have a printed code that ends with 00F/000, and everywhere else is A04/0A0. Also, the label on the discs is different. At least on 3s the Japan region discs have Japanese text on the cover, where the USA ones do not.

      inserting the relevant paragraph from the source code here for posterity.

      Source Code

      1. Each game consists of a cart and a CD having various codes needed to identify them. Carts and CDs have
      2. both a different Part # printed on their front/top side that includes the game cart/CD code and ends
      3. respectively with 00F/000 for all Japan releases and with A0F/0A0 for all the other ones. Therefore,
      4. the part # can be used only to identify Japan releases and further parameters need to be introduced.
      5. The cart is responsible for the game region that can be identified by a label with colored characters
      6. and a code printed on the back side. The antepenultimate character of the label code and the colour of the
      7. sticker vary by region, exactly as happens on the boot screen when the board is powered on. There are two
      8. types of carts. Some require the CD to boot, some don't since the game is already loaded into the SIMMs.
      9. Both types are externally identical and use the same codes, so the only way to distinguish them is to dump
      10. the flashROMs. The game region and CD/NO CD flags are controlled by two different bytes in the flashROM.
      11. The CD (and SIMMs too if the cart is of type NO CD) contains the game revision that can be identified
      12. by two codes, the catalog # and the label. The catalog # is the identifying code printed in the mirror
      13. ring on the top side close to the CD's center while the label is the code appearing on the CD icon when
      14. it's inserted into a PC CD drive. It has been verified that the catalog # and label are the same for
      15. some games but quite different for some others, so it's better to check both to avoid confusion. It
      16. has also been verified that the catalog # and label (and the data on CDs) don't change between regions,
      17. only between revisions. However, knowing one of them and comparing it with the table above will help
      18. to understand if a new game revision has been discovered. Current CD dumps have been documented using
      19. the catalog # as name, since the label is already included into the images used to generate CHDs.
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      Woodies: Xevious, Pac-Man, Dig Dug, Donkey Kong, Joust Cocktail, Space Invaders, 3-KOAM Red Angle
      Candies: 3x Aero City, New Astro City, 2x Blast City, Net City
      VAPS
    • I recently went through and ripped all of my CDs looking for any deviations from the MAME listing.


      There's just some of them... but what I went through everything matched up and no inaccuracies in the mame comments. Unfortunately they are all the common versions that everyone has.
      Woodies: Xevious, Pac-Man, Dig Dug, Donkey Kong, Joust Cocktail, Space Invaders, 3-KOAM Red Angle
      Candies: 3x Aero City, New Astro City, 2x Blast City, Net City
      VAPS
    • I do not have any of the JJM discs, and I would like one if anyone has any to sell, or trade! I have ripped two of the JJK discs myself.

      Here are the discs I have ripped myself:
      JJK 981202
      JJK 990128
      2i 970930
      3s 990512
      3s 990608
      NG 970204
      Warzard 961121
      Woodies: Xevious, Pac-Man, Dig Dug, Donkey Kong, Joust Cocktail, Space Invaders, 3-KOAM Red Angle
      Candies: 3x Aero City, New Astro City, 2x Blast City, Net City
      VAPS
    • MetalliC wrote:

      Darksoft wrote:

      Is there a way to know which version it is without having to dump them all?
      search that texts in github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/m…src/mame/drivers/cps3.cpp
      According to that only jojobar1 may be a BAD_DUMP, the rest seem OK.

      I assume that someone with a 970312 or 970403 CD will have a different CAP-SF3-X, being X higher than 3.
      * Arcade-projects, the site where you get the most of your arcade games.
      * If you want Drama go to Neo-Geo forum ---Darksoft
    • @Darksoft besides of CDs, there is also undumped but supposed or known to exists BIOSes:
      - SF3 3rd ASIA CD
      - SF3 3rd ASIA NOCD
      - SF3 3rd MEXICO
      - Red Earth USA
      - Red Earth MEXICO
      high likely they are only 1byte different from dumped other region BIOSes, but worth to check and make sure. (obviously this can be done only by persons who doing BIOS or/and SH2 CPU replacement services)
    • MetalliC wrote:

      @Darksoft besides of CDs, there is also undumped but supposed or known to exists BIOSes:
      - SF3 3rd ASIA CD
      - SF3 3rd ASIA NOCD
      - SF3 3rd MEXICO
      - Red Earth USA
      - Red Earth MEXICO
      high likely they are only 1byte different from dumped other region BIOSes, but worth to check and make sure. (obviously this can be done only by persons who doing BIOS or/and SH2 CPU replacement services)
      I just sold my Asia 3s. Cd version. I didn’t know it was undumped? Does reading the bios kill the cart? Because the one I sold was still alive, I changed the battery on it in March.
      Woodies: Xevious, Pac-Man, Dig Dug, Donkey Kong, Joust Cocktail, Space Invaders, 3-KOAM Red Angle
      Candies: 3x Aero City, New Astro City, 2x Blast City, Net City
      VAPS