Needing a part you can only grab off of another board, plus having to solder that big boy in makes me think it won't rise /too/ much.I'm guessing Martial Champion pcbs will now rise in price
This.Or people will buy a ton of them with intent of doing the conversion, then just sit on them for ages and never touch them.
Blu Circle: Same as rams, but you just need to swap them in the bottom solder row.This.Or people will buy a ton of them with intent of doing the conversion, then just sit on them for ages and never touch them.
I've been aware of this conversion for a while though I'd not really looked into the details of what's involved.
this guide makes it quite clear except for the blue circle, what exactly is being changed here?
oh, I see there are two sets of holes and they need to be moved. I didn't realize that from the photo.Blu Circle: Same as rams, but you just need to swap them in the bottom solder row.
Just put them in mask below where they are.
Well by "aware" I mean that someone told me they figured it out and gave me the basic information about how it was supposedly done but I didn't really look into it. The person that told me about it isn't on this forum so that's why they didn't share it here, and It wasn't my information to share, nor had I tested or verified any of it which is why I never posted about it myself.I get that "aware part" few months ago i think. People here do know stuff (and very well indeed) but they don't share. It makes me wonder what's the purpose of having this forum if people keep informations for theirself.
I've read this "i've been aware" quite many times...
I'm really glad for this. I have a couple things that have either worked out or know about from others that I'm not mentioning either for the same reasons. And besides, the whole market is messed up badly enough, no sense in making it worse, ha.There have been some conversions that I figured out that I have not shared simply because I believe that doing so will cause people to destroy the market for the donor game. I'm talking donor games that are great games that are uncommon but you can buy for maybe $150-$200 that could be converted into $500+ games. there's one I figured out that's a really awesome but hard to find $300 game that can become a $1000 game. I don't post about these because if I did we'd probably never be able to find an unmodified donor game again. I'm not keeping that info for my own profit I'm keeping it to help preserve those games. So to answer your question, that's why some people keep that information to themselves.
I'm sure you know I've posted quite a few conversion guides too, but I've seen first hand the damage some of my information has done to the market after releasing it, so I do take that into consideration before I release conversion info.
Wait, WHAT!?! There were $30 donor PCBs? Which one? Where!?! LOLoh, I see there are two sets of holes and they need to be moved. I didn't realize that from the photo.Blu Circle: Same as rams, but you just need to swap them in the bottom solder row.
Just put them in mask below where they are.
When I shared my patches for Jaleco Mega System 1C conversions, the $30 donor PCBs shot up to $300 almost overnight.I get that "aware part" few months ago i think. People here do know stuff (and very well indeed) but they don't share. It makes me wonder what's the purpose of having this forum if people keep informations for theirself.
I've read this "i've been aware" quite many times...
Most, sure. But Quiz Gakumon never would have gone up, and really this wouldn't have either (not that we really know if this will or has yet, but ALMOST no one has cared about Martial Champions up until today).but the reality is, they are going up anyway.
Well, I think you're right about it just going up on its own (it won't), but as awesome as A-P is, there are plenty of other people working on stuff and if it doesn't get released publicly, the prices keep going up and just a few people make money on them. It's better to get it out in the open and let everyone drive the price of MC up equally!Most, sure. But Quiz Gakumon never would have gone up, and really this wouldn't have either (not that we really know if this will or has yet, but ALMOST no one has cared about Martial Champions up until today).but the reality is, they are going up anyway.
Oh, and I'm SURE there is a thread on here where I was saying MC is one of the shittiest games I've played and tons of people jumped in to say, nuh-uh! LOL, maybe they meant MW instead... LOL.but ALMOST no one has cared about Martial Champions up until today).but the reality is, they are going up anyway.
I thought the Martial Champion -> Mystic Warriors conversion was common knowledge? while I've never seen a guide I know I've lots of people mention it publicly here and on other forums. I mean heck ekorz has had his listed for sale for a little while now and no one has batted an eye.this wouldn't have either (not that we really know if this will or has yet, but ALMOST no one has cared about Martial Champions up until today).
Totally. But I don't think most people want to bother working these things out for themselves, so if it's not explicitly explained how to do it then it doesn't gain any real traction.I thought the Martial Champion -> Mystic Warriors conversion was common knowledge? while I've never seen a guide I know I've lots of people mention it publicly here and on other forums. I mean heck ekorz has had his listed for sale for a little while now and no one has batted an eye.
This is that kind of mods i’d like to do . When comes around a word about just a simple roms swap arent so exciting !Totally. But I don't think most people want to bother working these things out for themselves, so if it's not explicitly explained how to do it then it doesn't gain any real traction.I thought the Martial Champion -> Mystic Warriors conversion was common knowledge? while I've never seen a guide I know I've lots of people mention it publicly here and on other forums. I mean heck ekorz has had his listed for sale for a little while now and no one has batted an eye.
But I really just meant that no one cares about the game in general.
Maybe that's true, or maybe the few people who are capable of figuring it out all decide to not speak of it because they don't want to be the person who ruin's the market. Like I said, if someone else figures it out and decides to release that information that's their decision, but it's not going to be me. It's like saying you might as well smash up your car because it's going to eventually end up in a junk yard. Maybe it will get smashed up eventually but I'm going to do what I can to make sure I am not personally the one who causes that.this stuff will eventually being figured out, soon or later. We are just delaying the fact, your not hiding it anyway.
I think you missed the point here. Why do people convert? it's so that they can play an expensive game while spending less money. Why do people buy converted games? for the same reason.Last, when money came in out of your pocket, people are generally smart with it. It's the same example for Neo Geo Aes or super expensive Super Famicom games, they just don't throw in 2000$ without being sure on what they will buy. I mean, some purchases nowdays must have almost a study behind. You can probably gain a little bit with it but no one is gonna pay a full price for a fake, no one.
I agree with you, but at the end of the day, that's gatekeeping it. Those conversion factories are doing everything you said, but at the end of the day, that just means more people are able to buy and play the game.Maybe that's true, or maybe the few people who are capable of figuring it out all decide to not speak of it because they don't want to be the person who ruin's the market. Like I said, if someone else figures it out and decides to release that information that's their decision, but it's not going to be me. It's like saying you might as well smash up your car because it's going to eventually end up in a junk yard. Maybe it will get smashed up eventually but I'm going to do what I can to make sure I am not personally the one who causes that.this stuff will eventually being figured out, soon or later. We are just delaying the fact, your not hiding it anyway.
I think you missed the point here. Why do people convert? it's so that they can play an expensive game while spending less money. Why do people buy converted games? for the same reason.Last, when money came in out of your pocket, people are generally smart with it. It's the same example for Neo Geo Aes or super expensive Super Famicom games, they just don't throw in 2000$ without being sure on what they will buy. I mean, some purchases nowdays must have almost a study behind. You can probably gain a little bit with it but no one is gonna pay a full price for a fake, no one.
I don't think there is any risk about fakes being sold as real boards, HOWEVER. look at Quiz Gakumon, it was a $40 game, and now it's a $150 game because it can be converted to TMNT2. TMNT2 is still a $600 game but people can sell conversions for $400 because it's still cheaper than the real one and some people don't have the skill to do the conversion themselves. Now you have people who are buying all of the Quiz Gakumons they can find and converting them all so they can make a profit, like a factory. Look on KLOV or eBay you will find people who have sold DOZENS of TMNT2 conversion PCBs for buyers who are too lazy or unskilled enough to do the conversion themselves. Look at eBay and you will find hundreds of converted PCBs being sold out of China.
if this was limited to just a handful of experienced/curious people here on A-P it wouldn't be a problem, but when you have people here on A-P to take this information and then use it to setup conversion "factories" it results in a real problem for the arcade market.