Help with Top3000 Programmer Drivers

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    • aha2940 wrote:

      Yami wrote:

      Hi everyone,
      I'm searching for a reliable programmer of M27C800 and M27C322 that possibly works on Windows 10 (x64) and I'm considering the TOP 3000... it's still valid today?
      Thank you
      I have one, it has worked reliably for whatever I've needed, however I read there is a new version: TOP 3100, however no idea if that's the most recent version, though.
      It's definitely not recent, found a (rather useless) video on it dating back from 2014:
    • Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      aha2940 wrote:

      Yami wrote:

      Hi everyone,
      I'm searching for a reliable programmer of M27C800 and M27C322 that possibly works on Windows 10 (x64) and I'm considering the TOP 3000... it's still valid today?
      Thank you
      I have one, it has worked reliably for whatever I've needed, however I read there is a new version: TOP 3100, however no idea if that's the most recent version, though.
      It's definitely not recent, found a (rather useless) video on it dating back from 2014:
      Even if a bit older than I thought, I guess it still works fine for writing EPROMs to fix game boards from the 80s and 90s.
    • aha2940 wrote:

      Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      aha2940 wrote:

      Yami wrote:

      Hi everyone,
      I'm searching for a reliable programmer of M27C800 and M27C322 that possibly works on Windows 10 (x64) and I'm considering the TOP 3000... it's still valid today?
      Thank you
      I have one, it has worked reliably for whatever I've needed, however I read there is a new version: TOP 3100, however no idea if that's the most recent version, though.
      It's definitely not recent, found a (rather useless) video on it dating back from 2014:
      Even if a bit older than I thought, I guess it still works fine for writing EPROMs to fix game boards from the 80s and 90s.
      Well I was rather excited about a new version which could potentially support more chips but was a bit bummed out this was not the case :)
    • Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      aha2940 wrote:

      Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      aha2940 wrote:

      Yami wrote:

      Hi everyone,
      I'm searching for a reliable programmer of M27C800 and M27C322 that possibly works on Windows 10 (x64) and I'm considering the TOP 3000... it's still valid today?
      Thank you
      I have one, it has worked reliably for whatever I've needed, however I read there is a new version: TOP 3100, however no idea if that's the most recent version, though.
      It's definitely not recent, found a (rather useless) video on it dating back from 2014:
      Even if a bit older than I thought, I guess it still works fine for writing EPROMs to fix game boards from the 80s and 90s.
      Well I was rather excited about a new version which could potentially support more chips but was a bit bummed out this was not the case :)
      I seem to recall that the TOP3100 indeed supports some more chips than the TOP3000, however I can't find now the document where I read that. But anyway, the extra supported chips do not seem to be very used in the arcade world, so for this hobby, the TOP3000 seems to be enough.

      tonyt76 wrote:

      I think the major difference between the TOP3000 & TOP3100 is a 42pin socket vs a 48 pin socket.
      Nah, my TOP3000 has the same 48 pin socket that the TOP3100 has, so that's not it.
    • Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      @twistedsymphony did you get this running fine on W10?
      nope my Top3000 got thrown in the trash... literally.
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    • Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      Damnit... so what are you using now then?
      Essentially my Top3000 was dead, it had programmed about a hand full of chips among dozens of failures before it simply refused to communicate over USB. I sent it to another AP member who had a confirmed good, working software setup and he couldn't get it to work either so we trashed it.

      After the Top3000 I moved to an EETools ChipMax 2, which is a really fantastic programmer, arguably the nicest programmer with the nicest software I've ever used.

      Honestly, I got sick of wasting time with all the crappy Chinese programmers. Moving to the ChipMax2 was a breath of fresh air. Zero problems installing the software, because it's a legit professional grade product, everything is in English, from the software, to the official website, to the documentation, and it has real support, because it's a USA made product. It programs about twice as fast as my GQ did, has a much nicer socket, metal enclosure. Not to mention I had a literal pile of chips that my GQ4 and Top3000 refused to program and the ChipMax2 wrote to them like they were brand new.

      However, I've since moved to an Xeltec SuperPro, it's not as nice as the ChipMax2 but it has a much larger list of compatible chips, which I needed for some obscure stuff I was working with.

      Neither of these are comparable price wise to the Top3000 as they both retail around $600 but if you wait for one to come up you can often find them used for around $350 (which is what I paid for each).

      they're twice the price but well worth it IMO.
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    • I hopefully will get a better programmer in the future. However my Top3000 has had no errors and I even run it on a Mac.

      I opened my unit when I got it and thankfully it didn’t have the leaky caps like other users have reported.
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    • twistedsymphony wrote:

      Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      Damnit... so what are you using now then?
      Essentially my Top3000 was dead, it had programmed about a hand full of chips among dozens of failures before it simply refused to communicate over USB. I sent it to another AP member who had a confirmed good, working software setup and he couldn't get it to work either so we trashed it.
      After the Top3000 I moved to an EETools ChipMax 2, which is a really fantastic programmer, arguably the nicest programmer with the nicest software I've ever used.

      Honestly, I got sick of wasting time with all the crappy Chinese programmers. Moving to the ChipMax2 was a breath of fresh air. Zero problems installing the software, because it's a legit professional grade product, everything is in English, from the software, to the official website, to the documentation, and it has real support, because it's a USA made product. It programs about twice as fast as my GQ did, has a much nicer socket, metal enclosure. Not to mention I had a literal pile of chips that my GQ4 and Top3000 refused to program and the ChipMax2 wrote to them like they were brand new.

      However, I've since moved to an Xeltec SuperPro, it's not as nice as the ChipMax2 but it has a much larger list of compatible chips, which I needed for some obscure stuff I was working with.

      Neither of these are comparable price wise to the Top3000 as they both retail around $600 but if you wait for one to come up you can often find them used for around $350 (which is what I paid for each).

      they're twice the price but well worth it IMO.
      Thanks for your elaborated reply TS, I remembered you've bought the ChipMax2, but that's really out of my pricerange. Hopefully mine works well, otherwise I will just file a claim and see from there.. :)
    • Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      Thanks Alex, I don't see an alternative for that money so I ordered the TOP3000 and will also get some of the 1000uf 10v caps just in case.
      not just in case - replace them right away and remove a bit of the plastic ;)
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    • Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      Hopefully mine works well, otherwise I will just file a claim and see from there..
      Out of the Cheap Chinese programmers the TopMax3000 is probably the best, at least in terms of features/chip compatibility. it seems a lot of them end up DOA or fail within a short time frame.

      unfortunately for me, mine sort-of work until I was beyond the claim period. And once that happens you're looking at spending about as much as you would on a much nicer programmer.
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    • rsignal wrote:

      The Minipro TL866A works very nice and its software is reliable.
      the TL866 is a great programmer for the price, but I wouldn't use it for any 16-bit chips.... which unless you're only exclusively working with boards from the 80s is most things.
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    • MoppelTheWhale wrote:

      Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      Thanks Alex, I don't see an alternative for that money so I ordered the TOP3000 and will also get some of the 1000uf 10v caps just in case.
      not just in case - replace them right away and remove a bit of the plastic ;)
      Yes, I will! :)

      twistedsymphony wrote:


      Sp33dFr34k wrote:

      Hopefully mine works well, otherwise I will just file a claim and see from there..
      Out of the Cheap Chinese programmers the TopMax3000 is probably the best, at least in terms of features/chip compatibility. it seems a lot of them end up DOA or fail within a short time frame.
      unfortunately for me, mine sort-of work until I was beyond the claim period. And once that happens you're looking at spending about as much as you would on a much nicer programmer.
      Guess you're right, I have a cheap MiniPro programmer which has served me well, but compatibility is a bit shit. Still working fine and quick though. I guess I'll just take my chances, no way back now :)