Fast I/O vs JVS

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    • connor wrote:

      You'll plug audio and the JVS USB cable into the Jammafier, video into the Type X2 then connect the Jammafier to the Taito PCB and straight through ethernet from the FastIO PCB to the FastIO DMAC in the Type X2. Does your Vewlix CP have a built in card reader? You'll need one of those too for FastIO.
      Yep, got a Nesica RFID reader. I actually have 2 extra now. Anyone need one? Slide into my PMs!

      Connor wrote:

      If you want to play JAMMA boards on your Vewlix that is wired for fastIO then rewiring to JVS and using a Jammafier would be the "easiest" option but it still seems like it'd be a pain to do making that big wiring harness. A JVS cabinet would let you play JVS, JAMMA and FastIO titles without mangling your wiring, once you rewire from FastIO to JVS you would be set.
      I just have the one cab and not really interested in the cost and space of having a second (famous last words). I know it's easy to say, "just get a JVS cab," and by that logic, I might as well throw in another cab just for 15khz jamma games. I think my only solution is to get a JVS I/O board that is compatible with my vewlix, and just swap around my fast i/0 board to the JVS when I want to play.

      Anyone here have recommendations on which *SPECIFIC* JVS I/O board I should get? Perhaps even the Naomi/Sega I/O board with Taito converter board? It seems people favor that board for JVS.

      Multis: CPS2, CPS3, Niko's TTX2
      Boards: SF2HF CPS1 w/ Stereo Mod, KI1+2, TTX3
      Superguns: HAS, Jammafier
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    • It has not. My setup is a little bit differently but the chain basically goes:

      Taito Type X3 VGA & FastIO ethernet into FastIO
      cab JVS IO and cab vga into Jammafier (removed the helper, it breaks 31khz)
      Jammafier into FastIO jamma edge
      Card reader into X3 JVS
      Audio directly from the 3.5mm on the x3

      While yes, I'm going back to JVS I prefer this over using native JVS on TypeX due to the timeout loop and Niko's fabulous JVS emulation correcting it.
    • If you care about Nesica games you really can't get away from the FastIO as I understand it.

      In a Vewlix cab that has a JAMMA kit installed you can connect the FastIO PCB to the JAMMA edge.
      The advantage in running a setup like this is the JAMMA kit won't conflict with the JVS PCB (unlike the FastIO PCB)...
      So you can basically have all three Taito IO's (JAMMA, JVS, Fast) in a single cab all installed at once, only moving the custom Taito control panel harness between the two (JAMMA/JVS) PCBs and accepting that the FastIO won't be directly connected to the control panel (it tucks away neatly at the bottom of the cab esp if you use a JAMMA extender).
      Darksoft: CPS3, CPS2, F3, MVS
      RGB: RECO v2, HAS v3
      invzim: Jammafier v1.6b
      XianXi: JNX Raiden, SC Taito Classic, SC Sega System 16/24
      Frank_fjs: JAMMA Extender (Special Edition)
    • sammargh wrote:

      It has not. My setup is a little bit differently but the chain basically goes:

      Taito Type X3 VGA & FastIO ethernet into FastIO
      cab JVS IO and cab vga into Jammafier (removed the helper, it breaks 31khz)
      Jammafier into FastIO jamma edge
      Card reader into X3 JVS
      Audio directly from the 3.5mm on the x3

      While yes, I'm going back to JVS I prefer this over using native JVS on TypeX due to the timeout loop and Niko's fabulous JVS emulation correcting it.
      Did you make your own multi image to run Type X2 games on the X3?
      Cabinets: Pump it Up SXV2, Pop'n Music Yellow, ITG2 Dedicab, New Astro City, New Net City, WMMT 3DX+ Asian pair
      Multi: TTX2, CPS2
      Systems: TTX2, F3, PGM, CPS2
      PCB: DDP, Mushi, Mushi Futari 1.5, Mr Driller G



    • Thats all too much input for me. So i dont understand everthing and I have a little stupid question.
      I have a type x2 multi in my newnetcity. Everthing works fine and I am happy with it.
      Maybe some day Nico will release the nesica support for it, do i need a fast io?
      And anybody has a model name or link to it if i need one please?

      Thank you so much, still new to this things
      Tom
    • PascalP wrote:

      Jim_Pansenmann wrote:

      Ahh ok.
      But if so, when or for what reason do you need a fast io card?
      Fast IO is ‘faster’ than JVS and for ‘originality’, but again, just my understanding ;)
      LOL, its FASTer :D

      But seriously, I have played USF4 with both JVS and Fast IO, and I can definitely tell the difference. Now I only play it with the Fast IO :)
    • PascalP wrote:

      From what I know there is a FastIO2JVS ‘emulator’ in the multi image, so that should be fine.

      But Niko can confirm hopefully
      I completely misconstrued what you said and read it as JVStoFastIO!!!!!!

      FastIOtoJVS works perfectly can confirm!!!!!
      Cabinets: Pump it Up SXV2, Pop'n Music Yellow, ITG2 Dedicab, New Astro City, New Net City, WMMT 3DX+ Asian pair
      Multi: TTX2, CPS2
      Systems: TTX2, F3, PGM, CPS2
      PCB: DDP, Mushi, Mushi Futari 1.5, Mr Driller G



    • Jim_Pansenmann wrote:

      But if so, when or for what reason do you need a fast io card?
      Need? I don't really think you NEED one at all.
      You might want one, especially because for X2/3/4 it's better than JVS.

      Based on the price, and the fact it's ONLY good for X systems, I say meh don't bother.
      The disclaimer to that is I don't really like or care about anything on X systems (you may feel differently).
      Darksoft: CPS3, CPS2, F3, MVS
      RGB: RECO v2, HAS v3
      invzim: Jammafier v1.6b
      XianXi: JNX Raiden, SC Taito Classic, SC Sega System 16/24
      Frank_fjs: JAMMA Extender (Special Edition)
    • jassin000 wrote:

      Jim_Pansenmann wrote:

      But if so, when or for what reason do you need a fast io card?
      Need? I don't really think you NEED one at all.You might want one, especially because for X2/3/4 it's better than JVS.

      Based on the price, and the fact it's ONLY good for X systems, I say meh don't bother.
      The disclaimer to that is I don't really like or care about anything on X systems (you may feel differently).
      Unless you are absolutely hellbent on using authentic hardware and having as close to a legit setup as possible FastIO is just gonna cost a lot of money, time and troubleshooting to get it running when one could just use a regular computer and a JVSPAC and not have to deal with the slow TypeX2 hardware and limitations of its OS.

      I am inclined to agree with you, unless you REALLY love the Type X1/2 platforms and their game libraries it is really not worth it. Just use a JVSPAC.
      Cabinets: Pump it Up SXV2, Pop'n Music Yellow, ITG2 Dedicab, New Astro City, New Net City, WMMT 3DX+ Asian pair
      Multi: TTX2, CPS2
      Systems: TTX2, F3, PGM, CPS2
      PCB: DDP, Mushi, Mushi Futari 1.5, Mr Driller G



    • Hell even if you like the games on X2/3 whatever...
      Just look at Street Fighter 4!
      The best version is the Steam PC version as its the only version that has the optional/selectable grafix filter that was IMO always intended to be used, but X hardware couldn't handle it.

      Ink is the visual game mode that matches ALL the still/promotional/flyer artwork for the game!





      Ink is how SF4 was intended to look, as all the artwork shows but only one version contains the actual filter to do it.





      Now you may not personally like this filter, but I don't think you can deny this was the intended visual style for the game, given all the artwork depicting it.
      Darksoft: CPS3, CPS2, F3, MVS
      RGB: RECO v2, HAS v3
      invzim: Jammafier v1.6b
      XianXi: JNX Raiden, SC Taito Classic, SC Sega System 16/24
      Frank_fjs: JAMMA Extender (Special Edition)

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