An odd question about Initial D Cabs

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    • An odd question about Initial D Cabs

      I've been having some trouble sourcing a single ID Ver3 Arcade Stage for about a month now. I see lots of places have ID 6's or 7's for sale and for what appear to be fairly decent prices. Oddly enough I really enjoy the older ID ver3 which is not to say I don't like the newer versions, I just like the music and overall feel of that game. (Forever ago I had a PS2 I modded which played Initial D speical stage and VER 3 shares a bunch of the story and physics as well as the sound track). So here's my question, could I run ID3 on a ID6 or 7 Cab? I know the hardware if very different (Naomi 2 Vs what is in ID4 and above Ringedge I think is what it is called). I didn't know if some kit / hack / cool method exists that could be used to play ID3 on a newer ID cab. Again, probably an odd question but I figured it can't hurt to ask. Thanks for any comments / help! 8)
    • I think you'd be good to go for a relatively straight NAOMI drop-in. The controls would work. You'd lose force feedback because ID4 and up use a different communication protocol for their force feedback boards (which incidentally CAN be translated, but not without a decent amount of work). The thing I'm unsure of is if the monitor in the newer cabs accepts VGA input, and if they do, do they stretch the NAOMI's video into wide-screen?

      I think @freddiefiasco has both types of cabs and would be able to shed more light on the subject.
    • This is really good info, thanks a ton! I hadn't really thought about that (Just changing the boards if I wanted to go back and forth between ID3 and ID7 That is pretty interesting. Would the power supplies for those be the same for the most part? I guess losing force feedback wouldn't be too bad. The more I think about it though the more I would wonder about something like cards. I would imagine the card reader for IDAS7 is pretty different (But I could be wrong hahaha)
    • Actually, power supply likely would be another issue. You'd need a JVS power supply for the NAOMI and that's not something that would be in newer ID cabs, as far as I know. I know they use JVS I/O boards and that will work with the NAOMI, and as far as I know, the controls would map up and work well enough. ID4 and up have extra buttons that wouldn't work in ID3, but I think the critical controls are all the same, so you'd just plug the JVS (USB form factor) plug into the NAOMI for I/O.

      I'm not familiar with the power supply in the newer cabs. Perhaps there's a way to adapt them to the connectors that NAOMI needs.
    • There would be power wiring considerations for the I/O board, too. I'm not sure if it somehow takes power from the psu in the Ringedge (Lindbergh has an external PSU and is in ID4 and 5 cabs, but also not a JVS psu). If that board isn't independently powered, it will need to be accounted for in the swap.

      Maybe it's more difficult of a swap than I assumed... :S
    • You can run ID 1,2,3 in an ID4,5,6,7,8 cabinet.

      The gotcha to this setup is that the Monitor on ID4,5,6,7,8 has a different resolution that not play well with ID1,2,3. In this situation I ended up just placing another monitor in front of the screen just to play.

      You can use the Steering Wheel control panel, the shifter, the view screen buttons, test and service buttons and foot pedals on all of them. You only lose out on the arrow buttons, these are not used in ID1-3.

      If you want to keep force feedback, you need to just swap out the FFB board used in ID1-3 with the one used for ID4-8. The serial connection uses RS-485 so this needs to be used as well. This will be the same for ID1-3 using one type of card reader vs ID4-8 using the other type.

      I'm currently not near my cabs atm but I will try to take screenshots of both setups so you get a visual idea of how you may want to swap between the two cabs.

      The cab used for ID1-3 just has enough room under the seat to house the RingEdge in place of the NAOMI2 in addition to the other components without having to pull anything else out.

      I am working on adding a hardwire switch to swap between both NAOMI2 and RingEdge components but there are a lot of components that make it tricky let alone the real estate to fit both consoles inside the cab.

      In the ID4-8 cab, you can fit an additional console under the seat right behind the RingEdge, the wiring needs to be split between the two systems.

      The post was edited 1 time, last by freddiefiasco: Photos and stuff. ().