MegaSD - FPGA SegaCD in a cart

rewrite · Jun 21st 2019, 2:02am

Derick2k wrote:

opt2not wrote:

BennVenn is working on a backlight kit for the NGPC

Yup, waiting on this one myself

I didn't know this was a thing!

jassin000 · Jun 21st 2019, 2:37am

opt2not wrote:

Soon I'll be getting my GBAConsolizer, which has an intense install. I really am looking forward to replaying the awesome Castlevania's and Metroids on that console again, but on a big TV without my janky Gamecube GBA Player setup.

I'm very interested in one of these, because I also see the Gamecube GBA player as a hacked together/sketchy solution/setup.
I want to wait for the dev to support the GBA Player however, I don't want to kill a working GBA by removing its screen.

Woozle's GBA Consolizer kit
"34 pin SP version is coming, but will be a different physical kit, stay tuned!
A GameCube GameBoy player version will come eventually…"

opt2not · Jun 21st 2019, 2:37am

rewrite wrote:

I didn't know this was a thing!

Posted on his Facebook page:

This doesn't have the luminance data, but it's a good start with getting the proper aspect ratio and scaling onto this screen. He has also stated on FB that it'll have exact linear 4x scaling. No distortion or lost pixels.

Darksoft · Jun 21st 2019, 10:04am

I'm curious to know if they have included the original untouched eprom code in the FPGA? If they haven't it won't work like the original, specially if they use an emulated 68000. I would have just released an ODE. It's the most simple and people would have 100% original.

xtrasmiley · Jun 21st 2019, 10:14am

The price is high, but it also has all the features of an Everdrive X7 (~$160), so I guess at $280 it's about $120 for the CD emulation. Not bad if you're a big fan.

I was hoping their prices would eventually come down, but I guess not based on their other products.

Also, it would be crazy to beta test this for them based on how they treat their customers. Things made here are very different because everyone is friendly and tries to help out with issues that pop up on initial releases, their products? 180 degrees the opposite.

Just some things to think about.

djsheep · Jun 21st 2019, 11:01am

Waiting for a ODE. Fuck Terraonion.

archimage · Jun 21st 2019, 1:54pm

if you want complete Mega CD emulation well use an emulator...

jassin000 · Jun 21st 2019, 2:28pm

archimage wrote:

if you want complete Mega CD emulation well use an emulator

Its true... I didn't want to be offensive to @ekorz but a Mega SG with this MegaSD plugged into it...
You just have a dedicated, bulky, expensive, emulation box.
Nothing wrong with experiencing these games this way, I could have saved you some major cash tho.

Nvidia Shield + MD.emu > 200$

psykom1 · Jun 21st 2019, 2:56pm

djsheep wrote:

Waiting for a ODE. Fuck Terraonion

Here's how I see it, If it can be pretty accurately emulated by a Raspberry Pi, I'm out of the ODE/original hardware solution.
Now...
There's value to the N64, Saturn, Dreamcast, Xbox, PS2, and Xbox360 to have a hack or an ODE on original hardware as it's hard to emulate correctly on existing tech.

The Genesis with the Sega CD, and 32X was absurd.
It's expensive old hardware with too many parts to break.
Plus with the 32X installed, who wants to have a bulky-ass power strip loaded with wall warts just to play a couple games and turn it off.

When they come out with a single solution that emulates the Sega CD and 32X, there's value there.
Like @jassin000 generally says "one thing to rule all the other things"
This device is not the crown prince we asked for.

ekorz · Jun 21st 2019, 3:01pm

@jassin000 I know what I’m doing, no offense taken. And we will see, if it’s any different then I’ll plug it into my actual genesis on the bvm.

Also I’m not sure it qualifies as bulky

undamned · Jun 21st 2019, 3:09pm

A few years back, I would have snatched this up in a heartbeat. Perhaps I'm being overly optimistic, but I really think MiSTer is going to replace all this stuff.
-ud

deibit · Jun 21st 2019, 3:15pm

I'm trying to convince myself to buy this FPGA thing.. the two logical options in my mind were:

- To wait for a full FPGA implementation (aka Analoge Mega-SG with CD, 32x support.. etc...)
- To wait for a real ODE

The MegaSG option (while creative) is not really what I had in mind. I'm going to regret to purchase it, if one of the other options is released in the next years (more considering the price)

So I guess I'm going to pass.

twistedsymphony · Jun 21st 2019, 3:55pm

psykom1 wrote:

Plus with the 32X installed, who wants to have a bulky-ass power strip loaded with wall warts just to play a couple games and turn it off.

There are solutions to that Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) Triple Power Supply (1 power supply for all 3 units, no wall wart)

ShootTheCore · Jun 21st 2019, 4:08pm

Darksoft wrote:

I'm curious to know if they have included the original untouched eprom code in the FPGA?

The end-user has to copy original Sega CD BIOS files onto the SD card for the Sega CD functionality to be enabled.

jassin000 · Jun 21st 2019, 4:49pm

twistedsymphony wrote:

There are solutions to that Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) Triple Power Supply (1 power supply for all 3 units, no wall wart)

I have this btw and its awesome!
I don't even use 32x/Genesis 2 portion of it, just Genesis 1 and Sega CD.

psykom1 · Jun 21st 2019, 4:58pm

twistedsymphony wrote:

psykom1 wrote:

Plus with the 32X installed, who wants to have a bulky-ass power strip loaded with wall warts just to play a couple games and turn it off.

There are solutions to that Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) Triple Power Supply (1 power supply for all 3 units, no wall wart)

That's a graceful solution.
Or you could just get one of these to complete the package.

moggsie · Jun 21st 2019, 11:34pm

Slightly off topic but still relevant is this youtube.com/watch?v=QYKR2r0XynE

I like RetroRGB but Bob seems to of become a bit of a Terraonion cock sucker of late.

Personally, running Neo Geo CD games on the AES is fake. I want to run NGCD games on my NGCD. It's exactly the same that I want to use my MegaCD to play MegaCD games - not have some cartridge where I have to unplug the MegaCD to run games via an SD card.

I definitely won't be buying any of these devices - first and foremost because it's Terraonion and I can't believe people still do with their track record. Bob himself used to advise caution when purchasing from them due to their non existent support and treatment of customers.
But even if another company came up with a similar design, I still wouldn't buy it as it's not what I want. ODE is what we want.

suverman · Jun 21st 2019, 11:45pm

@moggsie worst case scenario wait for the DS AES cart to have the NGCD support specially if you already have a DS Multi. (It is not top of their priority list so we have to wait but its in the list). Even if you dont, it is still cheaper than the NeoSD Pro. And support here is a lot better than TO. Instead of bullshitting about others like they do, here they spend time actually troubleshoot our problems.

And again, this informational video was done without any actual testing - not sure how based on TO's statements and promises alone NeoSD Pro became RetroRGB's "rom cart of choice".

xtrasmiley · Jun 22nd 2019, 12:15am

Yeah, I respect Bob a lot and enjoy his show, but after the shitshow TO was for the PCE device, he stated "I would never reckoned buying from TO direct because they leak your personal info, so order from Stone Age Gamer", yet he then states he pre-ordred two MEGA SDs after they sent him the loaner device?

Maybe he pre-ordered from SAG, but I didn't get that feeling.

Eh, he's a human that is free to change his mind about things, and I don't think this product seems like the shit show that was the PCE one, but again, I am not going to be the guinea pig for their products.

rewrite · Jun 22nd 2019, 12:19am

Glad I'm not the only one to notice the 180.

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