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I made a tutorial for picking 5575 locks, to save people from drilling them.

None of my cabs have 5380's or similar. I would love to borrow a 5380 style lock (and hopefully key, but key is secondary) so that I can make a tutorial for this style lock as well.

THINK OF THE LOCKS! SAVE THE DRILLS!

-skate
 
Friends don't let friends drill locks.

Someone send this man a 5380!

Results from yesterday's efforts to open my custom dimple locked control panel, after watching @skate323k137's video. Voila!!

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I can get behind this... but sadly I do not own any 5380s

Though, @ekorz, I think that one you sent me a link to that "looked wrong" was a 5380
 
that's the one. it might not be a 5380 since that's looks like a coin box latch, but it's the same style lock, which should work for a lock picking video.

I thought it was cheaper than that though :-/
 
twistedsymphony said:
that's the one. it might not be a 5380 since that's looks like a coin box latch, but it's the same style lock, which should work for a lock picking video.

I thought it was cheaper than that though :-/
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That might work. It does indeed look like the correct lock style.

If nobody has one I can borrow I might just cough up the money for one of those.
 
Thanks to jugu's donation, I have good news and bad news.

The good news, is I think I've determined what kind of lock it is, functionally/mechanically.

The bad news, is it appears to be a magnetic style of key. There is no functional part of the locking mechanism available from the keyway.

So in short the "picking" method would probably have to involve a thin magnet coupled with a tension wrench. I don't think I have any tools on hand that fit the bill, but I also don't like being defeated by a lock...

(for those curious, look at this key, you'll see metal shavings stuck to it as it would appear)

http://www.ukvac.com/forum/uploads/739/sega_key_5380.jpg

I was clued off by this key:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7c/8e/c1/7c8ec1becc2fb7ac40ab8aefbfb09634.jpg

Which led me to this:

http://www.lockwiki.com/index.php/MIWA_3800

So the 5380's, despite their innocent looking keys, are actually a much more secure lock than the 5575's used on newer cabinets. Go figure.
 
wow, I had no idea these were magnetic. I'm still unclear on how the magnet works though, it it simply a dimple lock but uses the magnet to pull the pins toward the key instead of springs?
 
Yeah, the tops and bottoms of the key are lined with magnets that push/pull appropriately on the pins. If you look at the key with the metal shavings closely you'll see (along the sides as it's pictured).
 
I had that thought as well... Try magnetizing some picks. I think that the pins are placed with differing polarity, so you might need NSNN on one side of the key if that makes sense.

In short... Don't lose your 5380 keys.
 
No worries! Thanks again for the donation. I may still mess with it. Otherwise I'll send it to locklab (bosnian bill) on YouTube. He makes videos about all kinds of locks, and will make a video if you send in a lock you can't pick. That's how I learned to do the 5575s in the first place (by watching locklab).
 
Did you ever hear back from lock lab? My Sega Flash Beats machine has 2 of these style locks so I'm interested in picking if possible.

They're non original to the machine (it came equipped with the 5575, so the two MIWA locks were installed by a previous owner). one was in one of the control panels but the lock mount was broken lose so I got it open by simply twisting the lock body. This was an SG2409 (not a 5380). It has another one of these on the cash box that I'd like to pick, or open with a key. I'd guess it might be another SG2409, or maybe a proper 5380.

In any cause I'd like to pick it if possible. If anyone happens to have a 2409 key and wants to let me borrow it I'll gladly give you the lock(s) in return.
 
I never did hear back. Want me to mail it to Bill? (locklab)?

At the con, we all eventually agreed it would take (potentially several) small magnets in work with tension to "beat" this lock. Nobody had the right tools on hand.
 
ah, I assumed you had already sent it to him. I'd love to see a professional's take on these locks.
 
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