How do you know if your Cave PGM cartridges are legit?
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ShootTheCore
Legendary
None of them are legit - the Cave games were never released officially as PGM carts. All three games were originally stand-alone boards with the game data and PGM hardware on the same PCB.
Your best bet for trouble-free carts is to get a set produced with the @Fluffy PCBs IMHO. I think @GC8TECH produces them to order for folks.
Your best bet for trouble-free carts is to get a set produced with the @Fluffy PCBs IMHO. I think @GC8TECH produces them to order for folks.
Every single cave cartridge is a bootleg from somewhere. The original cave pgm boards are all-in-one pcbs, not carts.
The first conversions were from arcademodbios, who developed the bootleg code, then more recently there’s been very heavy volume out of china. These are usually knights of valor carts that have been converted.
Fluffy’s repro pcbs are also running the “bootleg” code.
The best in my opinion are fluffy pcbs. Since they use all 5v parts you don’t have to worry about properly installed power level shifters or other shoddy conversion work.
The first conversions were from arcademodbios, who developed the bootleg code, then more recently there’s been very heavy volume out of china. These are usually knights of valor carts that have been converted.
Fluffy’s repro pcbs are also running the “bootleg” code.
The best in my opinion are fluffy pcbs. Since they use all 5v parts you don’t have to worry about properly installed power level shifters or other shoddy conversion work.
KalessinDB
Grand Master
1 exception: Bee Storm is/was, in fact, a legit cart. But I don't think that's what OP was referring to.
thegreathopper
Professional
I would also add that the 3 Cave games and a PGM board are so inexpensive from Sheep Nova for example it’s a crime not to have a set.
I used to own all 3 on original pcb and see no difference when playing on the PGM board.
I used to own all 3 on original pcb and see no difference when playing on the PGM board.
Also, it's not a Cave game.
Nimmers
Grand Master
I built these games off Fluffy's PCBs. They might be bootlegs but can confidently say that they don't "act up".
I also have fluffy carts.
The IGS motherboard cart connector is the problem though, cause that shit is garbage and ”acts up” a lot. Have two mobos, both sortof flaky
Nimmers
Grand Master
Mine have been ok but now that I have written this I bet they will play up the next time I play.
XtraSmiley
Legendary
I love Sheepnova, but in this case, I’d say avoid his versions and stick to Fluffy’s versions, for various reasons.
dos
Champion
Didn't he actually use Trap's code or something? I remember some drama about that
dos
Champion
Yeah I know there was a whole thing because he was profiting off someone else's work, and people were boycotting it. Seem to remember it being Trap but could be wrong
Interesting. I knew that some of the bootlegs had issues, I didn’t realize it was just the connector for the PGM causing it.
Apologies to anyone that worked on the cartridges, I had just figured it was a lazy cash in by someone trying to make a cheap buck, not enthusiasts making it happen, thank you for the work!
Apologies to anyone that worked on the cartridges, I had just figured it was a lazy cash in by someone trying to make a cheap buck, not enthusiasts making it happen, thank you for the work!
XtraSmiley
Legendary
It's not. Stick to the Fluffy one's if you want correct sounds and to avoid other problems.
ShootTheCore
Legendary
^ this. Many of the Cave carts that don’t use the Fluffy PCBs have all sorts of issues unrelated to the connector.
To be fair I have the same problem with 1 slot MVS boards too
But those connectors don't seem that easy to source.