bobbydilley
Professional
In fact, not to worry anymore - I've cracked it 
https://www.arcade-projects.com/threads/naomi-rs422.21444/#post-327989
https://www.arcade-projects.com/threads/naomi-rs422.21444/#post-327989
- Thread starter winteriscoming
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- card reader id3 initial d3 naomi 2
Quick update, I'm still working on new features, latest one is automatic language detection of the cards and I've added support for MiFare 1k and 4k cards using NFC. The language detection looks in the save file for the region specific game code and then applies an overlay during printing. The icons are now printed direct from code rather than a font and look much cleaner.
winteriscoming
Champion
Quick update, I'm still working on new features, latest one is automatic language detection of the cards and I've added support for MiFare 1k and 4k cards using NFC. The language detection looks in the save file for the region specific game code and then applies an overlay during printing. The icons are now printed direct from code rather than a font and look much cleaner.
Great work!
djturbolence
Beginner
Aloha everyone, I'm a proud owner of a set of initial D8 arcades, I believe I have the only ones in Hawaii. I'm trying to catch up on this topic but it's a lot to sift through. I do not currently have the server, and like an idiot purchased initial D4 english cards a few years ago, only to find out they wont work in my machine. Was wondering if there were any options out there. Sorry for being a total noob.
For Operating them or for home use? For home use, I'd use a ras-pi and make RF Tags for everybody in the house / friends, for commercial operation, I wouldn't know what's involved with why your cards don't work, even so I would imagine there'd be a limit to the number of cards you have... so how long would you imagine this to last before you run out?
djturbolence
Beginner
I believe I have the export cards. They don’t work in the Japanese cabs. Saving progress in general would be great with RF tags. Is this just theory or has this been done on the actual arcade (not emulated).
Also, since mine does t have the server, is there a simple way to make 1v1 to work ?
Also, since mine does t have the server, is there a simple way to make 1v1 to work ?
You can save games to Mifare 4k NFC cards using a raspberry pi and ACR122U NFC reader, I have working code (thanks to a very generous benefactor) tested with ID8 running on a Ringedge board that needs more testing and maybe sticking a frontend on but I think would be usable in an arcade, you'd just need to come up with a way to wire the readers in neatly.
djturbolence
Beginner
Dude that would be incredibly, could simply print a personal design on the cards to make them look professional. I’m a decent fabricator, I’m sure I could print or craft something that looks good. How far away you think this is till it’s available ?
If you can get the pi, card reader hardware and are happy to help with testing that would really speed things along. I'll get a demo up on YouTube over the weekend, been meaning to far ages but have had crap phone issues, new phone as of last week so no excuse now, hold fire until you see the video to make sure it does what you expect it to!
The cards are easy enough to purchase in bulk, and you could make a design for the arcade, or take a sticker printer with a logo or something for the top with the name and a picture for people who want a card, maybe some way to build loyalty to your arcade?
These are the ones I purchased and they work great and there's a boatload of them in a pack so I've got a lifetime supply...
And this is the reader I used:
These are the ones I purchased and they work great and there's a boatload of them in a pack so I've got a lifetime supply...
NTAG215 13.56 MHZ NFC Tags RFID TagMo DIY
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143652345689?var=442633950303And this is the reader I used:
ACR122U-A9 NFC Card Reader Writer USB 13.56Mhz RFID
https://www.ebay.com/itm/313843799830Unfortunately NTAG 215 cards don't have enough capacity for ID8, you need the Mifare 4k cards. The saves are 2048 bytes and although they are called 4k you don't get 4k of storage, you lose 25% of the space to key management 
Sorry My Mistake, I haven't dealt with ID8, Just the Naomi 1-2 sorry!Unfortunately NTAG 215 cards don't have enough capacity for ID8, you need the Mifare 4k cards. The saves are 2048 bytes and although they are called 4k you don't get 4k of storage, you lose 25% of the space to key management
djturbolence
Beginner
Ready and waiting
djturbolence
Beginner
I have someone "prepping a ringedge" for me to work as a server, is there a simpler way to get these two machines to link up ?
djturbolence
Beginner
Just watched it, it is much farther along than I realized! Incredible. I have a few questions.
I’m wondering if there is a card reader that gets inserted rather than placed on top, just to have it more secured when people are driving.
Will the process be completely automated? Or will key strokes need to be done during the process ? Wondering if an operator will have to manually do something or if eventually the user will just be able play as if nothing is different.
You mentioned printing, how would it print? From the id8 printer or from a third party reader/printer ?
Off topic, but is there any idea if I can link two arcades together for 1v1 using a pi?
Incredible work. Totally ready to help.
I’m wondering if there is a card reader that gets inserted rather than placed on top, just to have it more secured when people are driving.
Will the process be completely automated? Or will key strokes need to be done during the process ? Wondering if an operator will have to manually do something or if eventually the user will just be able play as if nothing is different.
You mentioned printing, how would it print? From the id8 printer or from a third party reader/printer ?
Off topic, but is there any idea if I can link two arcades together for 1v1 using a pi?
Incredible work. Totally ready to help.
winteriscoming
Champion
Let's get this in another thread if you don't mind. I would be interested in learning more about it. It seems crazy to have to have an entire Ringedge devoted to being a server. Seems like it should be possible to replicate it with another device. I unfortunately ended up with some broken REs and only have 2 working ones to work with so never have gotten to the point of linking up for 1 on 1.
This is done virtually and visible on a server via a web browser.
djturbolence
Beginner
I get it now, gotcha! Should I just buy a Pi and Reader and we continue from there?
seventhbigsmoke
Student
I am also very interested in the nfc card readers for my id5 i have talked to you before and just saw your youtube video and looks great!!! Also for the other guy talking about linking games together i am in the same boat as you and would like to know how to link these babys without having to buy that spendy sever which are impossible to find.
seventhbigsmoke
Student
Which raspberry pi do i need?