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I post my calculations here, so everyone can judge by themselves.
Djsheep asked for:

Famicon Gyro set 15600 (fee 3000 -> for free)
Famicon overOBJ game that was out of stock. I found one for him at 4980 (fee 1500 -> for free)
Doxter T13 475 (fee 1000)
Doxter SEGA 472 (fee 1000)
Doxter Pony Mk III 785 (fee 1000)
Other Doxters
785 (fee 1000)
785 (fee 1000)
472 (fee 1000)

Purchase costs 24354
Total fees 10500 -> 6000
+ Packaging and shipment costs

I think he forgot the famicon game in his calculation, I'm sorry he misunderstood. Luckily, everything became clear before any purchase in a kind and friendly discussion. There was no switch whatsoever.

Best,
Superget
 
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I’m going to side with @djsheep on this one.

The problem is the wording on your original price list says just “item” on it and not "per item". I’m assuming most of us here thought you were meaning “order”. After all, many “orders” are just one “item”. Per item changes absolutely everything.

Most people would assume paying a 1000 yen service fee per ~500 yen item is a bit odd after all. Problem is, that’s what you actually meant with the pricing, and that is exactly where the disconnect happened.

You did not charge @djsheep for the Famicom stuff sure, but you did charge 6000 yen service fee for 3774 yen worth of magazines (making the subtotal come out to 9774 yen BEFORE shipping. Ouch!) because you applied fees to each individual item. For frame of reference, I charged between 4000 to 6000 yen to send a PCB up to 99,999 yen in 2022 (4400-6500 yen in 2025 money). If I happened to pick five or six small books at the same shop for you, it was all considered the same order, with the same time applied, and with the same fees.

He rightly assumed that his service fee would fall into your 1501-5000 yen slot of 1500 yen. This means he would be paying 400% of what I’m assuming most of us would calculate. By the way things are, you’d pay a 1000 yen service fee per 200 yen capsule toy if somebody asked you to pick some up on your way out the door lol. I know math is little tedious for some people, but you are definitely getting ripped off when ordering multiple items with this pricing.

Can you imagine if I charged a 1000 yen service fee per item for the CD wallet of Lindbergh DVDs I helped someone get; 96,000 yen service fee for 10,000 yen of DVDs lol. Let's say those 96 DVDs came in 16 packages with six DVDs each and it was just charged that way, that's still a 16,000 yen service fee for 10,000 yen of merchandise that got shipped in a size 60 box with no real effort/time required on packing. For clarity, I charged around 4500 yen for that order: ordering time for 6-8 orders (don't remember exactly), unpacking them and then re-packing, hand writing in the Yamato forms, and then dropping it off. Combined with comms time it was about 2.5 hours work done all together.

I know that was an extreme example, but that's how this pricing system works. You guys would have crucified me if I had tried this, and I almost certainly would have never moved as many orders as I did and gained the trust of members in 12 different countries.

You do you, but damn. No thanks.

This is why I charged by time, per total order, until things got over six digits. Anyway, I’m out of here. I told you to be extra careful with your first orders, and you went and dropped the ball with the coolest guy on the forum lol 😆 😂🤣

Edit: Suspicious screenshots removed upon request. Rules are rules, so I'll follow them to keep the peace.
 
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OK. I see. You’re charging 1,000 yen to process a 472 yen pamphlet sized booklet. Yeah, no thanks. I figured ordering a small stack of them would be counted as an item or two or even based on total price. Unsure the processing required.

Also. I didn’t forget the Famicom game. If you re-read your DM to me it’s clearly specified that the price would go up if I chose to grab it. The 6,000 yen fee, anyone would assume would be without it.

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Anyways. Good luck @Miaomiao your service totally ain’t for me. The goal is peace of mind and to save some $ not spend some more.
 
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Question: If I buy an expensive pcb through my own payment method and have you reship it, do you still take a percentage cost of the PCB value as your fee?
 
Question: If I buy an expensive pcb through my own payment method and have you reship it, do you still take a percentage cost of the PCB value as your fee?
No, I would apply just a small fee for the storage and handling service, since a PCB is small. For large items it would be different. Maybe we could discuss about this matter in DM.
 
Do the same fees apply for being commissioned to search for an item in local stores, or do you only accept orders when you receive an online link to an in stock item?
 
Do the same fees apply for being commissioned to search for an item in local stores, or do you only accept orders when you receive an online link to an in stock item?
I apply the fees in the table if I can deal with the search online, or if the customer provides a link. If I have to go around shopping, I would charge a fee for my time, it would become expensive. I add that nowadays 95% of the stuff is online.
 
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I apply the fees in the table if I can deal with the search online, or if the customer provides a link. If I have to go around shopping, I would charge a fee for my time, it would become expensive. I add that nowadays 95% of the stuff is online.
I see, modern proxy companies are very cheap, but I could see your services having an advantage with an item that was notorious for being faked. I'd be interested in a service where I could just give you a list of things I was looking for with no expectation, and if you happened to stumble upon something indirectly then i'd pay you your fee.
 
Order was for 6 x Doxster books from BEEP ranging between 400-800 yen each and the Famicom Robot Gyro set from Suragaya at 15,600 yen.

The service fee I was quoted was 6,000 yen before additional postage and packing for 24,000 yen of goods. The 6,000 yen fee was after removing some money off the fee for the “two free item” offer. Can’t for the life of me figure out the math on that one.

Wasn’t happy with the bait and switch whatsoever.

I will say, before people start jumping down my throat on this (and subsequent) points, I think this service is extremely overpriced when there are 10 proxies I can find with a simple Google search that will do this for literally free (0 yen).

I'm not sure that this was a bait and switch as much as it was a misunderstanding between both parties.

When I did the math here, I ended up with ~7000 yen total fees, which still didn't add up to 6000 yen, so I was just as confused as you on that front. lol. If you add the Famicom game that superget mentioned in a subsequent post, now the fees seem to make sense (per the table), but the Famicom game wasn't mentioned at all in your post.

The problem is the wording on your original price list says just “item” on it and not "per item". I’m assuming most of us here thought you were meaning “order”. After all, many “orders” are just one “item”. Per item changes absolutely everything.

Most people would assume paying a 1000 yen service fee per ~500 yen item is a bit odd after all. Problem is, that’s what you actually meant with the pricing, and that is exactly where the disconnect happened.

I read "item", I assumed "1000 yen per item". Perhaps this was the "wrong" assumption for me to make, but I can only take what superget wrote at face value.

"item" does not mean "order", or "request", It means item.

He rightly assumed that his service fee would fall into your 1501-5000 yen slot of 1500 yen.

Is it fair to conclude this was a "right" assumption to make? Because I don't think it was - superget's table clearly said item.

This is why I charged by time, per total order, until things got over six digits. Anyway, I’m out of here. I told you to be extra careful with your first orders, and you went and dropped the ball with the coolest guy on the forum lol 😆 😂🤣

I think charging by time for something like repackaging or other custom requests makes sense, but for one-off web ordering I think charging per item or order is the way to go. For example, I might spend 5 or 10 minutes submitting an order, then maybe another 5 or 10 dealing with it when it arrives... let's say 20m, or even 30m on the upside. Should I round up to the nearest hour? Charge for a half-hour? Or do I just tell people, "500 yen per item/order up to 10K yen" or something to make it easy?

Respectfully, I don't think it's fair to say superget "dropped the ball" here - there was a clear misunderstanding on sheep's side about what "item" meant. Could superget have done more to make it clear that item == item? Sure, but it's also a little unfair to blame superget for sheep's incorrect assumption.

OK. I see. You’re charging 1,000 yen to process a 472 yen pamphlet sized booklet. Yeah, no thanks. I figured ordering a small stack of them would be counted as an item or two or even based on total price. Unsure the processing required.

This is probably something that should've been clarified either in the thread or in the DM. If I was in any way confused or of the belief that he meant per order, I would've asked to clarify.

I read item, I assumed item. At 1K yen per item, I had negative interest in using this service, but I already generally have very little use for such one-off proxy services when much more established and far cheaper alternatives exist. So perhaps I am an outlier here.

Anyways. Good luck @Miaomiao your service totally ain’t for me. The goal is peace of mind and to save some $ not spend some more.

I'm confused by the MiaoMiao mention here. Are we saying Superget is MiaoMiao's alt account?

Anyway, IMO, if saving money and peace of mind is the goal, you're better served using any number of alternative services. To be specific, not Buyee and Sendico, since their fees are comically high.

If anyone wants recommendations for affordable proxy services that offer special packaging options for sensitive items, shoot me a PM. Not looking to derail this thread discussing alternatives (though there is already a thread about proxies where I've shared much of this information).

I see, modern proxy companies are very cheap, but I could see your services having an advantage with an item that was notorious for being faked.

IMO, not as much as you'd think. Yahoo is basically the wild west; while some mechanisms exist to try to claw your money back, at the end of the day, you will generally get stuck holding the bag. Mercari is a different story though, you have far more leverage to force a return/refund.

My personal opinion is to refrain from purchasing items that are likely to be faked unless you can get someone to inspect it in person before a purchase is made, OR the listing has sufficient evidence to demonstrate it isn't a fake. That said, fakes are reasonably uncommon and somewhat easy to spot. There are exceptions, of course, but, in general, I think this is something you don't need to be excessively concerned about.
 
@kazuo, see below for where the confusion possibly stemmed from:

@msamiullah

Hi, Msamiullah.
The fees apply to each single purchase.
If three items are sold at once, it will be a sigle purchase, and I will apply a single fee on the total price.
The case is different if I have to process multiple acquisitions. In that case, I will apply a fee for each one.
As a rule of thumb, a fee per price tag.
Thank you for asking.
 
He wrote "If three items are sold at once, it will be a single purchase, and I will apply a single fee on the total price.", so then why did he try to charge @djsheep six separate service fees for six items that all came from the same store? By his own account in that statement he should have charged 1500 yen because the total from that ONE STORE was 3774 yen; one SINGLE purchase. Instead he tried to charge 1000 yen for EACH BOOK.
 
Thanks nem & msamiullah for pointing out that post; I missed that. Definitely makes things a lot more confusing and unclear - I see now where the disconnect came from.

He wrote "If three items are sold at once, it will be a single purchase, and I will apply a single fee on the total price.", so then why did he try to charge @djsheep six separate service fees for six items that all came from the same store? By his own account in that statement he should have charged 1500 yen because the total from that ONE STORE was 3774 yen; one SINGLE purchase. Instead he tried to charge 1000 yen for EACH BOOK.

Yeah, in light of the follow-up post that says it's per purchase, it's really weird. My apologies to you and sheep as I hadn't seen initially, just the fee table (and I completely lost any interest I had at that point, lol).

I think the takeaway here is Superget may want to pause and re-assess how his fee structure is presented and communicated, and perhaps "beta test" with a few folks who showed interest via PM and are willing to help work through the kinks in the pricing.
 
The discussion could have been approached differently and handled with more grace, preferably in private, rather than through sudden public criticism simply because the prices being discussed were not to someone’s liking.
That said, I am open to discussing any doubts or confusion, and I welcome suggestions and changes.
I do not appreciate bullying.
If the tone remains like this, I would prefer to be contacted only by those who are genuinely interested.
I’m doing my best here.

Thank you.
 
I dont think the critism ive seen so far has reached the level of bullying. It is obvious that the fee structure was confusing to more than one individual. It is probably worth your while to re-evaluate your service structure and try to write it in a more concise manner to avoid further confusion.

In my opinion it is hard to pay a fee per item that is more than the item itself. Maybe there is a solution for this but I'm not one to offer an alternative. You may even want to restrict the types of items your services cover. Regardless of what you decide there will always be some people that don't see value in the service.

For what its worth to the suspicious parties we found no evidence at all tying the superget and miaomiao accounts together. We are positive they are two different people.
 
Ok. My two cents, give your opinion but do it always in a politely and respectful way or we'll delete. He can put the prices that he wants and may want to go for a specific niche. It just needs to be made clear in advance.
I think that items with a value below 1000 JPY are not the target of a personal proxy service. You've got already others for that. Now, if you want someone to buy your jamma pcb or stool or a nice item and you want them to test it, consolidate shipping, etc. Thats something that other proxies don't do.
I loved the service from @Joko3 who I had the pleasure to meet in Japan. His packing was great and he offered the service that I described above. But that's just me.

I would focus on items that require special care, actually even @Joko3 had to stop taking orders at some point, so I foresee that @superget will get a lot of work once he finds his right niche.

I hope this makes sense. Now let's keep it constructive.
 
Ok. My two cents, give your opinion but do it always in a politely and respectful way or we'll delete. He can put the prices that he wants and may want to go for a specific niche. It just needs to be made clear in advance.
I think that items with a value below 1000 JPY are not the target of a personal proxy service. You've got already others for that. Now, if you want someone to buy your jamma pcb or stool or a nice item and you want them to test it, consolidate shipping, etc. Thats something that other proxies don't do.
I loved the service from @Joko3 who I had the pleasure to meet in Japan. His packing was great and he offered the service that I described above. But that's just me.

I would focus on items that require special care, actually even @Joko3 had to stop taking orders at some point, so I foresee that @superget will get a lot of work once he finds his right niche.

I hope this makes sense. Now let's keep it constructive.
I'd like to thank @Darksoft for making the point. I totally agree with him.
I confirm the fee are functional to avoid dealing with a lot of small items,without banning them completely.
I am sorry for the confusion that arose, I will take it as a lesson for the future.
I am willing to work with you, guys.
 
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