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[SOLVED] ERROR 26 - OPTION BOARD MALFUNCTIONING on Naomi with CF solution

Nodoyuna said:
Another question... Is it somehow easier to pass the CF Card and load via NetBoot? Can I do it with my setup? I've never done that, but I can try it

The NetDIMM is version 4.02, do I need something special to try netboot?
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I agree with what @Mitsurugi-w says but just to rule out few things such as the PIC, you can indeed try the netboot scenario.

Before dive deep into a raspberry pi solution you can simply try netboot with just a UTP cable and a PC. In a nutshell;

1) You have to adjust your netdimm jumper settings to "netboot"
2) Then after reboot, go into test menu and adjust network settings according to your home network (i.e. assign IP address to netdimm such as 192.168.1.10).
3) Connect one end of the utp cable to netdimm the other end to your home router/hub/switch whatever you have. Let me remind again, you have to give a valid IP in your home network.
4) On your PC, ping the netdimm's IP address. If you have response then your network setup is almost done.
5) Use transfergame.exe to upload a game rom to your "network enabled" naomi.

There are obviously huge resources on the internet including this very forum regarding this topic. The above are just the summry of essential steps to guide you.

Hopefully if you have a zero PIC good for netboot (most of them sold on the internet are indeed netboot zero pic.) your game will start. If not just try an AW game (to bypass the zero pic need).

Eitherway, if your game loads fine, your netdimm is good. Then you might consider to move to a raspberry pi solution, which in my opinion superior option over a CF solution since you already have the netdimm.

Good luck...
 
Since your setup was working previously, I suspect it is failing power or a failing CF card. Being that the CF card represents the least expensive, fasted possible route to a potential solution, I'd just sooner pick up a new CF card. Use the Cisco ones. People seem to have lots of success with it. Failing this, then look into potentially replacing your PSU with a Sun PSU. This is much harder to do since you might have to re-terminate your connections as well as pay a premium (Sun PSU's are as much as $100 used).

But since you have NetDimm and not a regular Dimm, you might as well just netboot. Netbooting is the most accessible way to play your Naomi/Atomiswave games. Beats burning new game bins each time you want to switch games. You'll need the following as a baseline:
  • The ability to run an ethernet cable from your router/hub/switch to your NetDimm
  • A proper zero/null key. For this, I would only trust one that is burned with the venerable werejag's work
    • Search this forum for this term 'compiled binary' under author 'werejag'
  • Re-configure your NetDimm's jumpers for netbooting
  • Then configure your NetDimm with a proper IP address
  • Use transfergame.exe to send your game to the Naomi. Place this program into the same folder where you keep your Naomi game bin files to make life easier
    • The correct command is 'transfergame.exe ipaddress gamefilename.bin.
    • Here is an example of the command line when I run it on my PC: c:\NaomiGames\transfergame.exe 192.168.1.19 MarvelVsCapcom2.bin
    • You would replace c:\NaomiGames\ with the directory on your PC where you save your games
    • You would replace 192.168.1.19 with the IP address you give to your NetDimm

Once you can properly netboot, then look into getting the RPi solution. First thing's first, though, make sure you can netboot.
 
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acblunden2 said:
Since your setup was working previously, I suspect it is failing power or a failing CF card. Being that the CF card represents the least expensive, fasted possible route to a potential solution, I'd just sooner pick up a new CF card. Use the Cisco ones. People seem to have lots of success with it. Failing this, then look into potentially replacing your PSU with a Sun PSU. This is much harder to do since you might have to re-terminate your connections as well as pay a premium (Sun PSU's are as much as $100 used).

But since you have NetDimm and not a regular Dimm, you might as well just netboot. Netbooting is the most accessible way to play your Naomi/Atomiswave games. Beats burning new game bins each time you want to switch games. You'll need the following as a baseline:
  • The ability to run an ethernet cable from your router/hub/switch to your NetDimm
  • A proper zero/null key. For this, I would only trust one that is burned with the venerable werejag's work
    • Search this forum for this term 'compiled binary' under author 'werejag'
  • Re-configure your NetDimm's jumpers for netbooting
  • Then configure your NetDimm with a proper IP address
  • Use transfergame.exe to send your game to the Naomi. Place this program into the same folder where you keep your Naomi game bin files to make life easier
    • The correct command is 'transfergame.exe ipaddress gamefilename.bin.
    • Here is an example of the command line when I run it on my PC: c:\NaomiGames\transfergame.exe 192.168.1.19 MarvelVsCapcom2.bin
    • You would replace c:\NaomiGames\ with the directory on your PC where you save your games
    • You would replace 192.168.1.19 with the IP address you give to your NetDimm

Once you can properly netboot, then look into getting the RPi solution. First thing's first, though, make sure you can netboot.
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Thanks everybody for the anwers. I'm learning a lot :D
It seems the netboot solution is better than the CF one I have, so I think I'm going to try that directly...
Some questions I have:

1) The Ethernet cable is a normal or a crossed one?
2) Given my netDIMM is version 4.02, can I assume I already have the zero/null key?
3) Using netboot will lower the power the Naomi needs to run games?
4) With netboot solution, can I have ALL the Naomi, Naomi2 and Atomiswave games in on SD card and "simply" transfer the game I want to play?
5) About using a PC ATX PSU... What model should I look for? (I have one at home, but the connectors does not match with Naomi)

Thanks in advance
 
1) Ethernet cable can be normal unless you use a very old PC (old network card) and connect Netdimm and PC directly. I use a normal UTP cable with my Pi setup which is directly connected to Naomi. Pi (and modern ethernet cards) just detect if the UTP cable is normal or cross.

2) No. You cannot assume what kind of zero/null key you have. Ask to whomever provided it to you. Your very problem might be the zero pic you have might be indeed a netboot pic. There is a slight difference in the code.

3) Not really. Only benefit would be you do not have to power the CF reader. The power issue you are facing seems to be just effecting the CF reader and the CF card itself because your naomi & netdimm seem to boot normal. If you had a dramatic power problem you would see a black screen, not even a naomi logo. So go ahead and try the netboot scenario and see it yourself...

4) If you use a raspberry pi as a "device" to transfer the game yes, you put all the roms to the "rom" folder on the SD card and select them via an LCD plate or remotely from your phone.

5) I use a Tagan model PSU which is a very quality and rare PSU and is 480W. Just dont go for a cheap-o "supposed" to be 350W PSU.
 
IT WORKS!!!!!
Tried netboot and it does work great :D
Thanks a LOT for your (everybody) help!!!!!

 
Great news! I really can understand how you feel right now :thumbsup:

Now, next challenge is to get yourself a Raspberry Pi, a cheaper older model I recommend, and an adafruit 2x16 LCD plate and make yourself a dedicated "netbooter" device. Pack all the roms into a 32GB SD card and forget the CF scenario forever as if it was a bad dream ^^
 
I'm having problems with Atomiswave conversions
They load fine, but in the end, I only have a black screen
The Naomi games I've tried works great
 
Nodoyuna said:
I'm having problems with Atomiswave conversions
They load fine, but in the end, I only have a black screen
The Naomi games I've tried works great
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Some games don't like the BIOS/Region you are using (I don't know if that counts for AW games) What is your BIOS version and region?

Some games don't like the I/O board since they are expecting different controls such as driving wheel etc.

Some AW game convertions have been corrected by DS in time and different releases exists. Do you have the recent corrected/fixed ROMs?

Forinstance, test Metalslug6... Does it load & play?
 
Hi
I've solved the problem by renaming the game to the same letter type, and change the extension from bin to dat...
So, for example: MetalSlug6.bin becomes metalslug6.dat
This way it works for me
I have the Naomi modbios, BTW ;)
 
Nodoyuna said:
Hi
I've solved the problem by renaming the game to the same letter type, and change the extension from bin to dat...
So, for example: MetalSlug6.bin becomes metalslug6.dat
This way it works for me
I have the Naomi modbios, BTW ;)
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Whoah, really? This was quite an issue before that was never solved. It worked for some people, did not work for others.

Some people could not get the Atomiswave games to work on the Naomi. So you are saying all you did was just changed the casing for the game's naming convention and it worked?
 
acblunden2 said:
Nodoyuna said:
Hi
I've solved the problem by renaming the game to the same letter type, and change the extension from bin to dat...
So, for example: MetalSlug6.bin becomes metalslug6.dat
This way it works for me
I have the Naomi modbios, BTW ;)
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Whoah, really? This was quite an issue before that was never solved. It worked for some people, did not work for others.
Some people could not get the Atomiswave games to work on the Naomi. So you are saying all you did was just changed the casing for the game's naming convention and it worked?
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Yes, at first I tried a couple AW games but they did not work, so I tried the Naomi ones, and they load and run without any problem
Then, I started to search more games and I found many of them were in DAT format
So I tried the AW games not working at first and they work fine now
For me at least, this renaming worked ;D

I think, because the program used to load is a command-line one (like old ms-dos), it does not behave well with cased letters
Anyway, I'm happy now :D :D :D
 
yavuzg said:
Great news! I really can understand how you feel right now :thumbsup:

Now, next challenge is to get yourself a Raspberry Pi, a cheaper older model I recommend, and an adafruit 2x16 LCD plate and make yourself a dedicated "netbooter" device. Pack all the roms into a 32GB SD card and forget the CF scenario forever as if it was a bad dream ^^
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What program should I use for netbooting from a Raspberry?
I already have a Pi3, but I'll get one of the old ones, as you suggest, and use it only for the Naomi...
 
Nodoyuna said:
yavuzg said:
Great news! I really can understand how you feel right now :thumbsup:

Now, next challenge is to get yourself a Raspberry Pi, a cheaper older model I recommend, and an adafruit 2x16 LCD plate and make yourself a dedicated "netbooter" device. Pack all the roms into a 32GB SD card and forget the CF scenario forever as if it was a bad dream ^^
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What program should I use for netbooting from a Raspberry?I already have a Pi3, but I'll get one of the old ones, as you suggest, and use it only for the Naomi...
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There are many resources on the net to make a raspberry pi as a netboot device. The name of the program is "piforcetools". Well actually it is a raspi image.

Follow the instructions there: http://travistyoj.github.io/piforcetools/#_=_

The reason I used an older raspi is not because the piforcetools compatibility but to utilize an older version for a great purpose :) I also have pi3 but didn't wanted to waste it to this. I re-purposed my older pi and sticked it into the cab and never touch it again...

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I like your setup :D
About raspberry netbooting, I've seen one option to do it via wifi and a mobile phone, but being wifi, it should be slower, right?
The adafruit screen needs to be soldered before connecting it to the Pi, and my soldering skills are zero, so maybe the phone option is better for me...
 
Nodoyuna said:
I like your setup :D
About raspberry netbooting, I've seen one option to do it via wifi and a mobile phone, but being wifi, it should be slower, right?
The adafruit screen needs to be soldered before connecting it to the Pi, and my soldering skills are zero, so maybe the phone option is better for me...
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Yes adafruit LCD plate comes dissassembled. It is infact very easy to solder. An opportunity for you to develop some basic soldering skills if you are into such DIY project. Honestly, if you are in this hobby you have to solder, sooner or later ;)

Anyway, you might look for a pre-soldered kit or have someone, friend or a hobby shop do it for you.

Otherwise, yes there are other options which you access a simple web page on the RasPi via your phone. Never tried it. Just didn't liked the concept. Too modern for a home arcade, at least for me :)

Regarding WiFi, I do not know if it would be slower or not but EVERYTHING would be faster than CF ;)
 
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