If someone releases a drive image with this installed already I will use it. Too confusing to set up it seems for me.
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again this isnt ment for an x2, the version made for the x2 will be drag and drop i dont understand what would be confusing about it.
outside of the basic controls that are going to be documented, i am not exactly sure why someone would need a guide to drag and drop 2 folders to E and D
Also while I state this in the documentation written up for the ttx install,
say 5months form now if i release a new artwork pack, the reason they are split into Cave, TTX, Nesica is simple new artwork pack comes out you download it and drag and drop it over the previous one.
and that goes for all platforms
The unquie elements for the setup are 3 new exes creates for the X2
a game.exe that checks dips, and sets the res to hd, or sd, and then decides if you have a fast io or a jvs
a multi.exe that checks if the game is in the correct folder ( since nikos 1.4 image changed games naming schemes ) And then displays an error message if the folder name is not found
a reload.exe that closes Attract-mode, and relaunches nikos standalone Menu.
I believe i worked out the last bug last night and uploaded a version just waiting back to see if it worked form one of the people testing it for me.
Also while I state this in the documentation written up for the ttx install,
say 5months form now if i release a new artwork pack, the reason they are split into Cave, TTX, Nesica is simple new artwork pack comes out you download it and drag and drop it over the previous one.
and that goes for all platforms
The unquie elements for the setup are 3 new exes creates for the X2
a game.exe that checks dips, and sets the res to hd, or sd, and then decides if you have a fast io or a jvs
a multi.exe that checks if the game is in the correct folder ( since nikos 1.4 image changed games naming schemes ) And then displays an error message if the folder name is not found
a reload.exe that closes Attract-mode, and relaunches nikos standalone Menu.
I believe i worked out the last bug last night and uploaded a version just waiting back to see if it worked form one of the people testing it for me.
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I think it is a bit confusing. Maybe we should make it more clear what is for a PC and what is for the TX2. I read every single pot on those forums and I get a bit lost reading about the front end. It looks really cool and I want to use it on my TX2 but I have no idea how to. I guess there is a different version for that?
This can run for an X2, nothing is stopping it,
but as posted in the x2 multi thread, once a completed version is tested and working it will be released, no where in the release notes did i specify it was the x2 one on to quote myself
"Currently still uploading THIS IS NOT THE DRAG n drop update for an X2 ( however note UPDATES are NOT system dependent, once that version is out future artwork additions etc can be drag and dropped form these releases to that _"
but as posted in the x2 multi thread, once a completed version is tested and working it will be released, no where in the release notes did i specify it was the x2 one on to quote myself
"Currently still uploading THIS IS NOT THE DRAG n drop update for an X2 ( however note UPDATES are NOT system dependent, once that version is out future artwork additions etc can be drag and dropped form these releases to that _"
I guess we are just mixing up the releases.
I find a lot of people on technical forums like this make the mistake of assuming people already know things about the topic. That's why most of my technical posts start off with really basic information assuming the reader has about the same knowledge as someone who isn't even in the hobby.
I explain terms, abbreviations and acronyms that the reader might not be familiar with, and then give a summary of what the post is about and who the typical user might be. After that I go into the prerequisites before getting into the steps necessary to use it. A good example is my net-booting guide: How to Net-boot NAOMI/Tri-Force/Chihiro Using Pi-Force Tools
I treat it like I'm explaining the thing to someone who knows nothing about the hobby but is interested in learning. But because that's not everyone each section is clearly separated with bold titles so people can easily scroll over and skim areas that they might not care about to the information they DO care about.
Reading this from the perspective of someone first seeing this thread...
What is NxL? - its in the title and mentioned in the text but I have no idea what it is
What is Pras? - also in the title, not mentioned anywhere in the text, again I have no idea what it is
How is this relevant to Taito Type X? - it is in the TTX forum after all.
the very first line of relevant content in that post "NXL Will now be split into Downloads" Why do I want to download this? I don't even know what it is or what it does.
reading further, of the two downloads the "theme update" seems irrelevant to me if I don't already have this installed and the "Base Install" "is ment for beginners who dont know where to start" which sounds like me but it's still unclear what this is, what it does, and who it's relevant to. Should I just download it to find out? is there more documentation for beginners in the download?
reading the first page worth of posts most of the comments are about TTX games not quitting back to the menu... which doesn't do much to help much in terms of giving an idea that this is for PC use.
I'm not trying to be jerk here, just pointing out what some people might think if they stumbled into this thread because they just bought a Taito Type X and wanted to see what was out there.
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considering post 1 was nuked before, beacuse it just had to much it no longer has links to the original source. on attract modes forums so i can give you that, however
if you dont care enough to figure out that theme only is the theme only then you shouldn't download it.
If you dont understand that I cant help you because it is clearly explained what to do with packs
Nxl BaseInstall This is going to include everything presetup Minus Romlist and Artwork This will have rocketlauncher and the AM ingreation pack This is ment for beginners who dont know where to start
This will include all 3 versions of the theme and the screen saver Iv made.
What about the Artwork packs?
Well You download the baseinstall, and pick a artwork pack the current list of artwork packs avilable are
Cave ::
Taito Type X::
NesicaXlive::
Pc Games::
Inside Each ArtworkPack You will find a Emulator.cfg File, And a Romlist
Extract the Contents of The pack To your artwork Folder.
"../Artwork/Cave"
Then Take the Romlist open it up in Notepad++ And copy the Romlist, Then naivgate to your romlist of choice, and paste it in YOU can even use this time to remove games you dont intend on ever playing!
Once that is dont Save your Romlist and Copy the "cave".cfg File form the artwork Pack into your ../Am/Emulators/ Folder. This is what sets the path inside AM for it to scan for your artwork
Once this is setup with these 3 easy setups You have setup the frontend!, its up to you at this point to configure your prefered method to launch the game
on top of the fact, that it has been stated in this thread now 4 times and in the ttx multi thread, that i will have a complete version uploaded just for it.
if you dont care enough to figure out that theme only is the theme only then you shouldn't download it.
If you dont understand that I cant help you because it is clearly explained what to do with packs
Nxl BaseInstall This is going to include everything presetup Minus Romlist and Artwork This will have rocketlauncher and the AM ingreation pack This is ment for beginners who dont know where to start
This will include all 3 versions of the theme and the screen saver Iv made.
What about the Artwork packs?
Well You download the baseinstall, and pick a artwork pack the current list of artwork packs avilable are
Cave ::
Taito Type X::
NesicaXlive::
Pc Games::
Inside Each ArtworkPack You will find a Emulator.cfg File, And a Romlist
Extract the Contents of The pack To your artwork Folder.
"../Artwork/Cave"
Then Take the Romlist open it up in Notepad++ And copy the Romlist, Then naivgate to your romlist of choice, and paste it in YOU can even use this time to remove games you dont intend on ever playing!
Once that is dont Save your Romlist and Copy the "cave".cfg File form the artwork Pack into your ../Am/Emulators/ Folder. This is what sets the path inside AM for it to scan for your artwork
Once this is setup with these 3 easy setups You have setup the frontend!, its up to you at this point to configure your prefered method to launch the game
on top of the fact, that it has been stated in this thread now 4 times and in the ttx multi thread, that i will have a complete version uploaded just for it.
Right, but what are the packs for? And what benefit do they provide?
That is the part that is not clearly explained in any way shape or form.
Considering it is in the name Artwork pack, i think 99.98% of people should be able to come to the conulsion it is artwork of somekind. but maybe i am being to generous to the human species
on top of when loading the "base" install with no artwork you get blanked out artwork that says artwork missing.
You can justify it all you like but people are still asking "stupid question" and I'm just trying to help you reduce that. but I can tell when my help is not wanted... I'll be on my way 
I try to start your frontend. Its starting from the multi menu. But after i try to start any game there is an error. You can see the picture. None of them is working. ( games )
What am i doing wrong ? do you think ?
And there is 3-4 name for each games ?
What am i doing wrong ? do you think ?
And there is 3-4 name for each games ?
Thank you very much. I didnt realize that sorry
OK so I got Niko's new image working pretty good .. and few glitches here and there but no biggy (JVS goes dead when I load Arcana Heart 2 for some reason .. not on any other game).
So I decided to load up atrfate's front end.
1) Copied everything in the D folder to TTX2Multi[D]. Check!
2) Copied everything in the E folder to TTX2Multi[Games]. Check!
3) Renamed all folders of games I plan on using (or that I have) to match the naming convention as per the Foldernames.txt. Check!
Arcana Heart 2[TTX]
Arcana Heart 3[TTX]
BattleFantasia[TTX]
BlazBlue CalamityTrigger[TTX]
BlazBlue ContinuumShift II[TTX]
BlazBlue ContinuumShift[TTX]
Chaos Breaker[TTX]
Daemon Bride[TTX]
Deathsmiles II[TTX]
GigaWing Generations[TTX]
Homura[TTX]
King of Fighters 98 Ultimate Match[TTX]
King of Fighters XII[TTX]
King of Fighters XIII[TTX]
King of Fighters XIII Climax[TTX]
King of Fighters Maximum Impact Regulation A[TTX]
King of Fighters SkyStage[TTX]
Power Instinct 5[TTX]
Raiden 3[TTX]
Raiden 4[TTX]
SamuraiSpirits Sen[TTX]
Shikigami no Shiro III[TTX]
Spica Adventure[TTX]
Suggoi! Arcana Heart 2[TTX]
Trouble Witches[TTX]
StreetFighter 4[TTX]
StreetFighter 4 Arcade Edition[TTX]
Super StreetFighter 4 Arcade Edition 2012[TTX]
StreetFighter 4 Arcade Edition Export[TTX]
Senko no Ronde Duo[TTX]
4)Edit TTX2Multi[D]\Frontend\AM\romlists\Nesicagui.txt using # to remark out all games I do not have. Check!
5)Put drive in TTX2 unit and boot it up. Initially it loads into Niko's front end so I set the Frontend as default and shut the machine down and reboot. Check!
6)It boots into the GLROIOUS front end and everything looks good .. er .. wait. There's games missing!!!!
It seems it did not pick up..
Arcana Heart 2[TTX]
Arcana Heart 3[TTX]
Daemon Bride[TTX]
Deathsmiles II[TTX]
King of Fighters SkyStage[TTX]
Power Instinct 5[TTX]
Raiden 3[TTX]
Raiden 4[TTX]
Spica Adventure[TTX]
Suggoi! Arcana Heart 2[TTX]
Trouble Witches[TTX]
So I load each game that does show up to make sure they play .. ayup all is good there.
I then open up the setting and change the Front end around to my tastes settling on the SegaPras - HD theme.
Soooo Did I miss something to make sure games are added?
As a side note don't forget to edit the folder structure of games you add ..
For example..
TTX2Multi[Games]:\Arcana Heart 2[TTX]\Game\ .. is the folder where the Arcana Heart 2 game goes
TTX2Multi[Games]:\Arcana Heart 2[TTX]\TypeXmulti\ is a folder you have to create and add the config.ini to which pretty much just says gametype=jvs in it.
Then just to be safe I added a JPG file for each game Mainly for when your in default mode it still has a picture.
So I decided to load up atrfate's front end.
1) Copied everything in the D folder to TTX2Multi[D]. Check!
2) Copied everything in the E folder to TTX2Multi[Games]. Check!
3) Renamed all folders of games I plan on using (or that I have) to match the naming convention as per the Foldernames.txt. Check!
Arcana Heart 2[TTX]
Arcana Heart 3[TTX]
BattleFantasia[TTX]
BlazBlue CalamityTrigger[TTX]
BlazBlue ContinuumShift II[TTX]
BlazBlue ContinuumShift[TTX]
Chaos Breaker[TTX]
Daemon Bride[TTX]
Deathsmiles II[TTX]
GigaWing Generations[TTX]
Homura[TTX]
King of Fighters 98 Ultimate Match[TTX]
King of Fighters XII[TTX]
King of Fighters XIII[TTX]
King of Fighters XIII Climax[TTX]
King of Fighters Maximum Impact Regulation A[TTX]
King of Fighters SkyStage[TTX]
Power Instinct 5[TTX]
Raiden 3[TTX]
Raiden 4[TTX]
SamuraiSpirits Sen[TTX]
Shikigami no Shiro III[TTX]
Spica Adventure[TTX]
Suggoi! Arcana Heart 2[TTX]
Trouble Witches[TTX]
StreetFighter 4[TTX]
StreetFighter 4 Arcade Edition[TTX]
Super StreetFighter 4 Arcade Edition 2012[TTX]
StreetFighter 4 Arcade Edition Export[TTX]
Senko no Ronde Duo[TTX]
4)Edit TTX2Multi[D]\Frontend\AM\romlists\Nesicagui.txt using # to remark out all games I do not have. Check!
5)Put drive in TTX2 unit and boot it up. Initially it loads into Niko's front end so I set the Frontend as default and shut the machine down and reboot. Check!
6)It boots into the GLROIOUS front end and everything looks good .. er .. wait. There's games missing!!!!
It seems it did not pick up..
Arcana Heart 2[TTX]
Arcana Heart 3[TTX]
Daemon Bride[TTX]
Deathsmiles II[TTX]
King of Fighters SkyStage[TTX]
Power Instinct 5[TTX]
Raiden 3[TTX]
Raiden 4[TTX]
Spica Adventure[TTX]
Suggoi! Arcana Heart 2[TTX]
Trouble Witches[TTX]
So I load each game that does show up to make sure they play .. ayup all is good there.
I then open up the setting and change the Front end around to my tastes settling on the SegaPras - HD theme.
Soooo Did I miss something to make sure games are added?
As a side note don't forget to edit the folder structure of games you add ..
For example..
TTX2Multi[Games]:\Arcana Heart 2[TTX]\Game\ .. is the folder where the Arcana Heart 2 game goes
TTX2Multi[Games]:\Arcana Heart 2[TTX]\TypeXmulti\ is a folder you have to create and add the config.ini to which pretty much just says gametype=jvs in it.
Then just to be safe I added a JPG file for each game Mainly for when your in default mode it still has a picture.
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Glorious front-end you say, that will be threefiddy
But yes the list, allow you to sort the reason games in the folder-list are listed as TTX
is more so to deal with how they load rather then how they play
and something needed to be added to the end of the games to make it different then say raiden 3 beacuse if nesica and ttx where on the same they would both load as raiden 3
so by adding [nesica] [ttx] quick way for a frontend to tell what versions of a game are.
Even if Arcana arts 2 is an examu game, in this case the TTX is ment to allow you 2 have 2 of them listed, not for the system of orgin
because the second you get in menu, you notice, and did notice, the fliterlist knows what system every game is on.
Be it steam/ttx/ttx2/ttx3/mame/pc
so while that apsect of names sound confusing its because i couldn't think of a better way for multiple versions to exist, With out OCD sorting all of the artwork 2.
I could have made TTX2 TTX ect there own foldertag, but doing this would mean id have to add artwork folders for them aswell. and add them as there own emulator.
So instead i cheated the system. but hey it works
But yes the list, allow you to sort the reason games in the folder-list are listed as TTX
is more so to deal with how they load rather then how they play
and something needed to be added to the end of the games to make it different then say raiden 3 beacuse if nesica and ttx where on the same they would both load as raiden 3
so by adding [nesica] [ttx] quick way for a frontend to tell what versions of a game are.
Even if Arcana arts 2 is an examu game, in this case the TTX is ment to allow you 2 have 2 of them listed, not for the system of orgin
because the second you get in menu, you notice, and did notice, the fliterlist knows what system every game is on.
Be it steam/ttx/ttx2/ttx3/mame/pc
so while that apsect of names sound confusing its because i couldn't think of a better way for multiple versions to exist, With out OCD sorting all of the artwork 2.
I could have made TTX2 TTX ect there own foldertag, but doing this would mean id have to add artwork folders for them aswell. and add them as there own emulator.
So instead i cheated the system. but hey it works
I just noticed the "notniko" guys torrent contains a Raiden 3 English so lets talk bout how we add games, and how we can make this unique.
This is the entry for the current raiden
Raiden 3;Raiden III;TTX;;2005;Taito;Shmup;1-2;2.02;2;;;;TTX;雷電III;
We can now Change some stuff to make a 2nd "clone" appear.
Raiden 3 < Field 1 , is the game folder name This will get ttx added to it. automatically by the launcher
Raiden III < Field 2 , this is the display on menu name this can be set to anything
TTX < Field 3 this is what gets added to the game to make the folder name dont edit this, unless you want to break artwork
Then you get ; ;2005 notice those ;;
that is a blank Field 4 ment for you guessed it Clones.
Raiden 3;Raiden III;TTX;Raiden 3;2005;Taito;Shmup;1-2;2.02;2;;;;TTX;雷電III;
So edit it like above, and place the base Games Field 1 name, in the clone area.
Now lets make the game show as Unquie
Raiden 3 English;Raiden III Export;TTX;Raiden 3;2005;Taito;Shmup;1-2;2.02E;2;;;;TTX;雷電III;
So here we changed the Games Base name To Raiden 3 English and the display name to raiden 3 export.
I also edited the "Version 2.02 and added an E"
if you where to save this, and go to the "All" menu, you would be greated with a new raiden 3 that would share the same artwork and video as the main game raiden 3
You would then Want your Game placed folder named.
Raiden 3 English[TTX]
So thats an understanding of how the clone system works You can also use this to limit the total number of new artwork assets needed to make a game
So lets say for Raiden 3 English you wanted it to look different wheel wise, you know the selection icon you would then have to create a new Raiden 3 english.png
and place it in the Artwork/ttx/Wheel id recommend using my wheel templates. but non the less once that file exist.
the menu will now grab all missing art form the "master" and then display any unquie artwork just for the clone.
So this means for clones you only need to make whats different, and even then only what you want to make, if it docent brother you they can just have the entirely the same artwork
This is the entry for the current raiden
Raiden 3;Raiden III;TTX;;2005;Taito;Shmup;1-2;2.02;2;;;;TTX;雷電III;
We can now Change some stuff to make a 2nd "clone" appear.
Raiden 3 < Field 1 , is the game folder name This will get ttx added to it. automatically by the launcher
Raiden III < Field 2 , this is the display on menu name this can be set to anything
TTX < Field 3 this is what gets added to the game to make the folder name dont edit this, unless you want to break artwork
Then you get ; ;2005 notice those ;;
that is a blank Field 4 ment for you guessed it Clones.
Raiden 3;Raiden III;TTX;Raiden 3;2005;Taito;Shmup;1-2;2.02;2;;;;TTX;雷電III;
So edit it like above, and place the base Games Field 1 name, in the clone area.
Now lets make the game show as Unquie
Raiden 3 English;Raiden III Export;TTX;Raiden 3;2005;Taito;Shmup;1-2;2.02E;2;;;;TTX;雷電III;
So here we changed the Games Base name To Raiden 3 English and the display name to raiden 3 export.
I also edited the "Version 2.02 and added an E"
if you where to save this, and go to the "All" menu, you would be greated with a new raiden 3 that would share the same artwork and video as the main game raiden 3
You would then Want your Game placed folder named.
Raiden 3 English[TTX]
So thats an understanding of how the clone system works You can also use this to limit the total number of new artwork assets needed to make a game
So lets say for Raiden 3 English you wanted it to look different wheel wise, you know the selection icon you would then have to create a new Raiden 3 english.png
and place it in the Artwork/ttx/Wheel id recommend using my wheel templates. but non the less once that file exist.
the menu will now grab all missing art form the "master" and then display any unquie artwork just for the clone.
So this means for clones you only need to make whats different, and even then only what you want to make, if it docent brother you they can just have the entirely the same artwork
Ah that helps a ton!
Because I have the following games on my old TTX2 multi to add..
Crimzon Clover
PowerInstinct 5 [Patched][All Characters]
SamuraiSpirits Sen [Patched][Blood]
So that would look like..
SamuraiSpirits Sen Blood patched;Samurai Shodown - Edge of Destiny Blood Patched;TTX;;2008;SNK Playmore;Fighting;1-2;1.0.1;4;;;;TTX2;サムライスピリッツ閃;
Power Instinct 5 Character Patched;Power Instinct: The Commemoration Character Patched;TTX;;2009;Atlus;Fighting;1-2;1.00;4;;;;TTX;豪血寺一族 先祖供養;
and the folders would be
SamuraiSpirits Sen Blood patched[TTX]
Power Instinct 5 Character Patched[TTX]
I am a little unsure about how to take the art for Crimzon Clover and apply it as the art you have is Nesica and I need it to be TTX
Still Wish I could add..
Contra - Evolution Revolution
Otomedius
But I'm not going to get into that at the moment
Because I have the following games on my old TTX2 multi to add..
Crimzon Clover
PowerInstinct 5 [Patched][All Characters]
SamuraiSpirits Sen [Patched][Blood]
So that would look like..
SamuraiSpirits Sen Blood patched;Samurai Shodown - Edge of Destiny Blood Patched;TTX;;2008;SNK Playmore;Fighting;1-2;1.0.1;4;;;;TTX2;サムライスピリッツ閃;
Power Instinct 5 Character Patched;Power Instinct: The Commemoration Character Patched;TTX;;2009;Atlus;Fighting;1-2;1.00;4;;;;TTX;豪血寺一族 先祖供養;
and the folders would be
SamuraiSpirits Sen Blood patched[TTX]
Power Instinct 5 Character Patched[TTX]
I am a little unsure about how to take the art for Crimzon Clover and apply it as the art you have is Nesica and I need it to be TTX
Still Wish I could add..
Contra - Evolution Revolution
Otomedius
But I'm not going to get into that at the moment
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