MAME recoil… How to?

[tangodownNZ]

Hello Arcade Enthusiasts,

I know this has been done before, but the threads on this topic have become complicated to follow.

I have a Ghost Squad gun with gun sense board and a fuse board.
The fuse board has a recoil signal wire which requires 5 volts - I currently hook this wire to the trigger, which works but its not ideal.
The problem hooking the recoil signal wire to the trigger is that if I run out of bullets in MAME the recoil still fires.

I am using a U-HID Nano from Ultimarc to send button presses and axis data to my PC.

I have read that MAME Hooker can output the recoil signal from MAME to the gun solenoid. But I can’t seem to find a how to for dummies guide anywhere.
I also need to know how to get the signal from my PC to the recoil signal wire (does MAME Hooker take care of this?).
The U-HID can output 5 volts and 15 milli amps, which I believe should be sufficient. Another option is the PAC Drive from Ultimarc, but I think the U-HID should work. Unless this is normally done another way.

I thought I would add. The game I am mainly interested in playing is Operation Wolf in MAME.

(Just a small question off to the side, not main question). I am assuming MAME Hooker only works with MAME. Is there something similar for the Dolphin Emulator.
When you press a button on a game controller, it shows in controller properties, in Windows. I was wondering if there is a way to output the trigger button signal from Windows to the gun.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[tangodownNZ]

I have the Sega Ghost Squad gun hooked up to the gun sense board. Its working and I can use it with Mame. I am trying to get the recoil output to go through my Ultimarc U-HID to the recoil signal wire. I believe mame hooker can do this, but I can not get mame hooker to see the game. Rom, parent and driver are all blank when I go to test. Nothing shows up in the debug window when I run mame and Operation Wolf. Its like it can not see Mame. I have set the mame path in mame hooker. But do I need to manually add the roms and parent ect? I thought I could just set up mame hooker and run it out of the box. Am I missing something.

I am also interest to know if I buy PAC Drive from Ultimarc. Does this have built in software that I can easily send the trigger output signal to my recoil signal wire on the gun?

Below is what I see when I go to sysTray - Test.

If somebody could please give me a little help that would be awesome.

Thank you very much

mame_start

Emulator=MAME

Game Info:

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Rom=

Parent=

Driver=

Orientation=0

mame_stop

 

[MickyMac]

That is great you have figured out how to use the stock sega gun sense board with a PC. Uhid is a fantastic product.

The only info I can give you is to perhaps ask on the arcade controls light gun forum.

There is a thread on gun4ir and a chap named JB has developed software that handles the behaviour you are looking for. (No recoil when reloading and just rumble not recoil when out of ammo). It's €20 for the software license and then you have to join a private discord to ask questions. it's all a bit "secret society" unfortunately and not much is public but there are a large number of light gun experts on that Discord.

 

[tangodownNZ]

That is great you have figured out how to use the stock sega gun sense board with a PC. Uhid is a fantastic product.

The only info I can give you is to perhaps ask on the arcade controls light gun forum.

There is a thread on gun4ir and a chap named JB has developed software that handles the behaviour you are looking for. (No recoil when reloading and just rumble not recoil when out of ammo). It's €20 for the software license and then you have to join a private discord to ask questions. it's all a bit "secret society" unfortunately and not much is public but there are a large number of light gun experts on that Discord.

Yes, its really cool to get it up and running. I will post some photos when I am happy with it. I had a lot of help from twistedsymphony

Thank you so much for this information.

Do you know where I can find that software by any chance? I have found JB but he’s probably busy

 

[tangodownNZ]

JayBee got back to me. Unlike others on that site who could have helped but didn’t. Thank you JayBee and MickyMac

Actually I have moved away from Mame Hooker. Even if it did work. As soon as you use a different emulator you have no recoil.

So I am just using the uhid config utility to send 5 volts to the trigger when the trigger is pressed. I know the recoil will fire everytime I pull the trigger but I can live with that.

Thanks again