Heya guys, if you have your kits working well, can someone sanity test an issue that I’m seeing with my build? For some reason, I’m seeing improper black levels in Magic Sword (U) and Final Fight (U) that I cannot debug. Debating if it is an issue with my CPSdigiAV or with the FW
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I am not seeing black level issues like that. But I can check with that game in particular.
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Good catch - super obvious on Final Fight (U).
@raynex can you check Final Fight and see if you see the same issue? If you do - likely FW related as it would be a crazy coincidence if all of us made the same mistake soldering it back on.
The picture with the deeper blacks is through the JAMMA edge (via a retrotink) and the washed out black background is through the DigiAV HDMI.
@raynex can you check Final Fight and see if you see the same issue? If you do - likely FW related as it would be a crazy coincidence if all of us made the same mistake soldering it back on.
The picture with the deeper blacks is through the JAMMA edge (via a retrotink) and the washed out black background is through the DigiAV HDMI.
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It's semi noticeable, but definitely noticeable in the Final Fight section you posted. If you switch HDMI mode to DVI, the black levels return to normal. HDMI mode switches back to a partial washed out look, but it's not prevalent in all the games. Mine is going through the Morph with a few Firmware behind as it's being updated practically every other day. Ignore the blooming as my TV is getting worse. I gotta buy a new one soon.
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@raynex do you have a way to get ahold of marqs and let him know about this particular issue? What forum did you post on your other issue? I can post over there with my example pics and see what he says.
For Final Fight - even when I change modes from HDMI to the other modes, its still washed out, and not black.
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For Final Fight - even when I change modes from HDMI to the other modes, its still washed out, and not black.
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I don't have a direct way to message Marqs; I just post to the forum he hangs around with his mods and hope he responds. You can post issues here: https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=59479&sid=cc17723d849fa4ae93ca94a0d42921ca
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Posted over there - I might also downgrade the firmware later tonight if I get time, and make sure it looks correct with the older FW.
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Yep, it’s my first time working with the CPS1 and I noticed that issue on my install, I reported it to marqs like two weeks ago, but until we could have other people repro the issue, we couldn't confirm if it was a faulty install on my part.
I had gone over the wiring countless times and even hooked up a logic probe to the buffer input/output to confirm there were no dead data lines, but it seems I was able to consistently repro the off-black issues on a couple of games.
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if you want to test and downgrade the firmware - i am guessing you will get the same results as I did - exact same black issue in Final Fight.
What is odd that in Street Fighter 2- no issues at all, so it does appear to be game specific.
What is odd that in Street Fighter 2- no issues at all, so it does appear to be game specific.
Whats funny is reviewing my test capture from two weeks back, the Magic Sword issue repro'd there as well. I was checking the map segment on Final Fight in the same video, are we expecting it to be completely black?:
View: https://youtu.be/N9sjfZPtmdU?si=KROHd3gDhsrKzSn9&t=394
Weird thing is that I don't have that issue with Magic Sword. It's clean. But I updated Morph and changed the color space to "Full" and it fixed Final Fight's washed out blacks. Previously it was set to auto and maybe detecting something different from the CPS1? IDK. I also changed CPS1 HDMI to Full RGB.
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When I go out the JAMMA edge -> retrotink 4k, its black. I can bypass the tink and go into a CRT - let me see if that is black.
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Knights of the round (drug screen) - on both the CPS2 Digi AV out AND the crt - have that not quite black border. This is w/o any scaler - the CPS2 DigiAV port going into the screen, and the JAMMA edge going straight into the CRT.
I am wondering if in Final Fight its just easier to see because the black level on that intro animation screen isn't truly black, but with the black border around it - it makes it look more obvious?
I am wondering if in Final Fight its just easier to see because the black level on that intro animation screen isn't truly black, but with the black border around it - it makes it look more obvious?
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Pulled up Final Fight on my analogue pocket - the black background isn't black there either. I think everything is working correctly.....
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Oh wow, you got it to fit! lol. Mine wouldn't come close to fitting the shield into that pin header. I must have not twisted it hard enough to shrink it down further. Looks great and definitely the way to go for this install.
