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werejag said:
then why is there this thread since this is the issue at hand?
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smart people grab dumps binaries, program them to PICs and it works 100% fine.
not smart or dumb people doing things wrong - take fishy looking source code, compile it, and get bad results.

is there any issue ? I cant see any. this World is full of dumb people which doing dumb things all the time.
 
I'm not even smart enough to compile fishy looking source code...

@brizzo thanks for the attempt but I'm not qualified to be the authority on this one at all :D I posted those settings to solicit feedback really.

I'll test @rtw's later and maybe some other folks can as well. Then let's sticky the right file with the right settings and be done with it!
 
MetalliC said:
werejag said:
then why is there this thread since this is the issue at hand?
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smart people grab dumps binaries, program them to PICs and it works 100% fine.not smart or dumb people doing things wrong - take fishy looking source code, compile it, and get bad results.

is there any issue ? I cant see any. this World is full of dumb people which doing dumb things all the time.
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this forum we try to help each other. lets just stick to that.
 
So.....can we all agree to post 100% actual working binaries/settings to successfully program netboot and/or CF pics. A post outlining the steps for each would be greatly appreciated by the community I think.
 
Derick2k said:
So.....can we all agree to post 100% actual working binaries/settings to successfully program netboot and/or CF pics. A post outlining the steps for each would be greatly appreciated by the community I think.
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did that ages ago

ill post some dropbox links thou for this thread
 
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werejag said:
MetalliC said:
werejag said:
then why is there this thread since this is the issue at hand?
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smart people grab dumps binaries, program them to PICs and it works 100% fine.not smart or dumb people doing things wrong - take fishy looking source code, compile it, and get bad results.
is there any issue ? I cant see any. this World is full of dumb people which doing dumb things all the time.
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this forum we try to help each other. lets just stick to that.
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totally agree. also lets stick to posting only correct information, not that bullshit about "MAME bad dumps", OK ?

Derick2k said:
So.....can we all agree to post 100% actual working binaries/settings to successfully program netboot and/or CF pics. A post outlining the steps for each would be greatly appreciated by the community I think.
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it have been posted number of times, by rtw in brizzo in this topic.
 
since i have not posted any bullshit about mame dumps. what ive been talking about is the dissembly and recoding for the 16f628 as seen on the ao wiki and other sources

im not the one calling people here not smart or dumb people for wanting to compile a correct chip
 
Ok, thank you guys for you efforts and helping the community out, it is very much appreciated :thumbsup:

@Coyo5050 Can you please update you initial post on this thread to include the info these guys have provided, thanks.
 
explained already. ive been talking about the dump from mame taht was decompiled to asm and converted to run on the 16f628 . the one every one has been using that has been a issue in naomi forums.
 
there is no source code there is a decompiled version based on the mame dumps or atleast one
 
I repeat - do you realize difference between dump and decompiled source code ?
so far, from your words you are looking highly incompetent and barely understand what you are doing

lets stop posting bullshit like in your quoted message and we will be OK ? OK ?
 
werejag said:
yes im aware . my fixed code shows what im doing
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lets imagine this is true. :rolleyes:
how do you then explain difference between genuine and 100% working Sega PIC (left side), and yours one (right side) ? why it doesn't match original dump ?
as I see there was removed some bytes from data section, and data section in general was moved, why you did this ?

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i have the code inside the rars. im done with the hate you are spewing. i even tried to get you to stop via pm. enjoy
 
werejag said:
errors where put in deliberately
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@werejag I oddly enough ran across you in some of my early research into this, in which you presented the following:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?248730-Rom-file-for-Naomi-Null-Zero-key

"Originally Posted by werejag
DT 0x00,0x00,0x00, 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00

should read

DT 0x33,0x00,0x00, 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00

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DT 0x34,0x2F ; Last 2 bytes of DES key
; DT 0x00,0x00
DT 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00

should read


; DT 0x34,0x2F ; Last 2 bytes of DES key
DT 0x34,0x00
; del line here

those lines are what are wrong mostly"

I noted @Lemony Vengeance also made an appearance with a wonderful comment framing the status quo:
"I've looked for days and cant find a damn thing. you may have to PM me with a trail of breadcrumbs."

So did @Mitsurugi-w with fuse settings...
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@leonk dropped some more info as well... including an alternate pastebin vs the one most folks were using at https://pastebin.com/jyELVuUt
"I don't use any script. I modified the code to be the null keys, compiled and burned it using my EPROM programmer onto a PIC chip. I use a CF setup (which I built myself) been running it for a few months now with no issues. Read the source, modify the defaults and it should work.

Here's the source I used: http://pastebin.com/Wn33TXMk.

One can clearly see that the zero keys and other parts are commented out. Just flip the comments. Not hard to follow even if you never done any Asm coding before"

MetalliC said:
I repeat - do you realize difference between dump and decompiled source code ?
so far, from your words you are looking highly incompetent and barely understand what you are doing

lets stop posting bullshit like in your quoted message and we will be OK ? OK ?
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I never understood the friction and cavalier attitude some of us get over the most basic of commentary... "If you want Drama go to Neo-Geo forum"
So what if he barely understands what he is doing? Don't be a <insert explicative here>, and use more concise words to help him out (or simply opt not to respond?). I get everyone here is volunteering their time, and these questions become burdensome, MAYBE just MAYBE if better notes were kept, and folks didn't feel the need to be secretive this feeling wouldn't exist.

Sorry for my Soap box, but real talk... leave the snark in your private sections that we can't see.

So the final thing that I am aware of here was a Rumor of a *different* Key for Type 3 Chihiro? It seemed there was conflicting detail on it. Here is an example thread where it is discussed.

https://assemblergames.com/threads/chihiro-null-key.68169/
"I have had people report that type 3 hardware doesnt work with the publicly available source/hex. Apparently someone fixed it, but its not public that I know of."

Of course... since this is like a reunion conversation @MetalliC had something to say there as well. =]
"no, type3 Chihiro or Triforce doesn't need any special keys"
 
yes, there is the code. but the code did not explains why you did changes so it doesn't match original Sega code/data. and that's why I'm asking for explanations.
 
there is no sega code that we have. you keep claiming this and its just not true.
 
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