Just don’t want you to run into a competition and be bummed out!
We'll definitely test it, I have a couple different types of ASUS monitors we use for tournaments, and if I have to get one specific LCD for this project.
worth considering these for the price if you already have UD-USB
I have 5 or 6 MK layout American style sticks, all are either PS3/360 or Brooks Universal converted so we're good to go. I have two of those PDP sticks as well.
Those MK fight sticks are perfect. I am planning to to rewire mine for db15 so no usb decoder or undamned adapters are needed.
Perfect? Not exactly, but they are definitely acceptable for casual play. The first time I used one was when I tested MK9 in 2011 at NetherRealm Studios. I brought my own stick with me because I didn't think they would have any, but they did so that was great. The biggest issue is that the buttons are further from the stick than normal, which isn't too terrible, however the actual parts are slightly sub par, again not really too terrible but pro/picky players notice. I also have 4 Qanba sticks, Obsidians and a Crystal, which some players like to use but those are mainly when I run casual setups for PS4 games at conventions, since no walk ups ever bring sticks, and rarely controllers.
The reason why I'm going with Undamned adapters is because when we do run classic MK tournaments, we draw people who bring their own pads and sticks, so we want to be able to accommodate them, and don't expect them to mod their controllers for DB15. This is why we've stuck with MAME for so long. We absolutely hate having to restart and reconfigure setups for new controllers, so 90% of the time we run with 2 PS2 pads, and 2 sticks mapped at all times, and save a config for that. It's a nightmare and this would be an interesting change, and it might not be worth it either. I would definitely consider having 2 sticks and 2 pads wired directly for DB15 though, that's for sure.
Nothing against Undamned, I love his products but I think if you are already dealing with lag from a LCD panel...
Why risking adding anymore? It's simply not worth it, esp when it can be so easily avoided with a new harness.
I'm not just talking about Undamned adapters too, the PCB inside the stick can add to this (end-to-end lag value) tremendously.
He speaks the truth
@UMKShock beware!The ENTIRE Midway family outputs these crazy low/oddball syn values nothing but special monitors will display (without a iScan DVDO).
You also need to be aware of the custom values needed for the OSSC to properly display the Midway family.
Mostly notably as you can see from my LCD screen, you need to increase the active v-pixel height above 240 (I used 300 and this seems to have let the OSSC find the value itself at 28
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Yeah these are issues we're aware of, and we'll see what has to be done, obviously I want it to work and I'm taking all the advice from this thread into consideration. In terms of lag, we're talking about reducing by
frames in exchange for milliseconds I
THINK and also input drops and miscellaneous bugs that we suffer with on MAME.
Quick tangent...
Last month I went to an arcade and played through MK1 & 2 and remembered how much I love the early MK's and how much I HATE the controls... Since were talking about controls and tournament viability here, what do they allow in the "official" scene / tournaments? Is it shrugged upon to not use the cross setup? What do people typically use aside from that for MK games? I see Jassin using the vewlix style setup, just wondering how it feels. I may have to load it up in mame and give it a shot. Not sure how the community feels about anything other than the default controls.
We allow any controller types for MK since MAME doesn't allow for multiple inputs of the same direction at once, but with this potential new setup, that might eliminate keyboards. I haven't checked into that yet. There are still players who think tournaments should only be on cabinets on the original arcade controls, but that hasn't been realistic in at least 15 years, especially since XBLA 2006 UMK3. The MKII scene is pretty much just pad players and any OGs who show up they use whatever sticks we provide.
