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orc.one

orc.one

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So far, I haven't had much chance to work on Zorch or the case design. I've been overwhelmed by sudden health issues in the family (none, thankfully, related to COVID-19, but I do live in the US, where masks appear stupidly optional, so that remains on the table.)

I have some rather uninformed questions about sticking multiple PCBs on the same JAMMA bus, but these will have to wait until I can do some more reading (I am really that far behind).

I'm beginning to realize some things, though. The MiSTer FPGA solution could resolve a ton of issues for me regarding accommodating many more types of arcade PCBs in a single space, more than I would ever have space or money for. I'm wondering if this makes so much more sense that I'm being foolish even pursuing the Neo Geo/CPS-2 board sets I'd like to collect, given my poverty of space.

Fortunately, this is a decision which can wait until later, after I've received my first Arcade PCB, a CPS-2 A and B board. (It's D&D! Probably one of two planned for this enclosure.) There's nothing that says I can collect—say—two PCBs and stick an FPGA in there and switch between JAMMA and the DE-10 or whatever.

I've been noodling block diagrams for Zorch, but this is an uninformed exercise.

I also seem to be getting lost in the weeds of deciding to study some power supply issues. I have an unrelated project which will benefit from this—repairing a Cherokee PS for an Octane2, but it is competing for my attention.
 
So... what is it? You've mentioned roadblocks and decisions to be made, but you didn't mention what your project Zorch or Martensite are.
 
rewrite said:
So... what is it? You've mentioned roadblocks and decisions to be made, but you didn't mention what your project Zorch or Martensite are.
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Basically a multi PCB case with a single video out/control.


Jassin2 said:
nem said:
Post history explains things

It's been a long winter.[.12898/url]
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He comes up with dumb designs and leaves the R&D up to someone else.
Then he'll ramble on for a few posts and deflect the fact that he's too lazy to go any further then some shit design.

Then someone will post the cartoon of him getting railed by his design and he'll just go away.

I'm just trying to save everyone the time.
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No, I'm the only one working on this. The notion that the R&D is "being left to someone else" is false—and how would that even work, anyway? What am I going to learn having someone else do something for me?

When I want help, I promise to ask. But regards to Zorch, I don't even have my first arcade PCB yet—I've only just ordered my first. If I set a soft deadline of 2021 for Zorch will that suffice? If not, how fast am I expected to work on this?

I do tend to proceed at my own time, budget, and pace—which gives way whenever obligations like work and family come up.


If you'd like to save everyone time, I can help you with your baseless speculation regarding my motives: the only need I'm looking to fulfill is house a small, personal collection, and I have no plans on even selling anything—this is just a hobby for me, not my day job. I don't want anyone to build anything for me, the point is to learn by doing it myself.

Those are my nefarious motives.

I do ramble, though. Good point.

Look, I don't know how you acquired your knowledge, but some of us have to start somewhere. I already have some basic skills in electronics and modding/repair of CRTs and have been using FPGAs for a few years now, and I like and enjoy games. That's all.

But you make it sound like the only way to participate in this hobby is to be magically gifted with knowledge. Apparently, this isn't how I work. Sorry I've wasted your time, though. I can refund that in person.
 
orc.one said:
Basically a multi PCB case with a single video out/control.
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Not to try and dissuade you at all, but wouldn't it be easier to take one of the existing 6:1 switchers or the like, and then build a case for it than to do the entire project from scratch?

Or is there something that those switchers lack that you need?
 
orc.one said:
rewrite said:
So... what is it? You've mentioned roadblocks and decisions to be made, but you didn't mention what your project Zorch or Martensite are.
Click to expand...
Basically a multi PCB case with a single video out/control.

Jassin2 said:
nem said:
Post history explains things

It's been a long winter.[.12898/url]
Click to expand...
He comes up with dumb designs and leaves the R&D up to someone else.Then he'll ramble on for a few posts and deflect the fact that he's too lazy to go any further then some shit design.

Then someone will post the cartoon of him getting railed by his design and he'll just go away.

I'm just trying to save everyone the time.
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No, I'm the only one working on this. The notion that the R&D is "being left to someone else" is false—and how would that even work, anyway? What am I going to learn having someone else do something for me?
When I want help, I promise to ask. But regards to Zorch, I don't even have my first arcade PCB yet—I've only just ordered my first. If I set a soft deadline of 2021 for Zorch will that suffice? If not, how fast am I expected to work on this?

I do tend to proceed at my own time, budget, and pace—which gives way whenever obligations like work and family come up.


If you'd like to save everyone time, I can help you with your baseless speculation regarding my motives: the only need I'm looking to fulfill is house a small, personal collection, and I have no plans on even selling anything—this is just a hobby for me, not my day job. I don't want anyone to build anything for me, the point is to learn by doing it myself.

Those are my nefarious motives.

I do ramble, though. Good point.

Look, I don't know how you acquired your knowledge, but some of us have to start somewhere. I already have some basic skills in electronics and modding/repair of CRTs and have been using FPGAs for a few years now, and I like and enjoy games. That's all.

But you make it sound like the only way to participate in this hobby is to be magically gifted with knowledge. Apparently, this isn't how I work. Sorry I've wasted your time, though. I can refund that in person.
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Yep, there's the rambling.

You came up with this brilliant idea of shoving a 6 slot into an ugly triangular box on Neo Geo. You blamed your issues with building on a lack of having a six slot. Now you're here saying that you want to make an ugly triangle for six jamma pcbs. Again, you can't do anything but a crude 3d model because you still don't have any PCBs.

So, I'll repeat myself again from what I said on another board, if you want to learn this stuff, ask questions and spend time reading about it. Don't come in with the same dumb design hoping that this will be the forum that helps you build it.

I wasn't gifted the knowledge I have, I spent time and learned it. Stop flapping your fucking pie hole and do the same thing.
 
rewrite said:
orc.one said:
Basically a multi PCB case with a single video out/control.
Click to expand...
Not to try and dissuade you at all, but wouldn't it be easier to take one of the existing 6:1 switchers or the like, and then build a case for it than to do the entire project from scratch?
Or is there something that those switchers lack that you need?
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I'm sure they work great, I just want to learn to do my own thing. I don't mind the extra work, so long as I learn something from it.

That experience I can parcel into other projects in mind after this, but those are unrelated to arcade games.
 
Jassin2 said:
orc.one said:
rewrite said:
So... what is it? You've mentioned roadblocks and decisions to be made, but you didn't mention what your project Zorch or Martensite are.
Click to expand...
Basically a multi PCB case with a single video out/control.
Jassin2 said:
nem said:
Post history explains things

It's been a long winter.[.12898/url]
Click to expand...
He comes up with dumb designs and leaves the R&D up to someone else.Then he'll ramble on for a few posts and deflect the fact that he's too lazy to go any further then some shit design.
Then someone will post the cartoon of him getting railed by his design and he'll just go away.

I'm just trying to save everyone the time.
Click to expand...
No, I'm the only one working on this. The notion that the R&D is "being left to someone else" is false—and how would that even work, anyway? What am I going to learn having someone else do something for me?When I want help, I promise to ask. But regards to Zorch, I don't even have my first arcade PCB yet—I've only just ordered my first. If I set a soft deadline of 2021 for Zorch will that suffice? If not, how fast am I expected to work on this?

I do tend to proceed at my own time, budget, and pace—which gives way whenever obligations like work and family come up.


If you'd like to save everyone time, I can help you with your baseless speculation regarding my motives: the only need I'm looking to fulfill is house a small, personal collection, and I have no plans on even selling anything—this is just a hobby for me, not my day job. I don't want anyone to build anything for me, the point is to learn by doing it myself.

Those are my nefarious motives.

I do ramble, though. Good point.

Look, I don't know how you acquired your knowledge, but some of us have to start somewhere. I already have some basic skills in electronics and modding/repair of CRTs and have been using FPGAs for a few years now, and I like and enjoy games. That's all.

But you make it sound like the only way to participate in this hobby is to be magically gifted with knowledge. Apparently, this isn't how I work. Sorry I've wasted your time, though. I can refund that in person.
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Yep, there's the rambling.
You came up with this brilliant idea of shoving a 6 slot into an ugly triangular box on Neo Geo. You blamed your issues with building on a lack of having a six slot. Now you're here saying that you want to make an ugly triangle for six jamma pcbs. Again, you can't do anything but a crude 3d model because you still don't have any PCBs.

So, I'll repeat myself again from what I said on another board, if you want to learn this stuff, ask questions and spend time reading about it. Don't come in with the same dumb design hoping that this will be the forum that helps you build it.

I wasn't gifted the knowledge I have, I spent time and learned it. Stop flapping your fucking pie hole and do the same thing.
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Oh, so you're from there? I forgot about that place. I'll get back when I get a chance. First, I need to finish putting together my workbench. Need to make the space for it in the garage. Yep, I definitely ramble. I should edit, but, really, I'm pretty informal.

Got a PCB en route, since you missed that. It's a start. And, not to be particular—but since you seem to require it——it isn't triangular. And if you think the 3D model of the casing is ugly/crude, wait until you see the beginner's welding I anticipate doing. You'll really hate it.

Your responses lean towards discouragement. Fair enough. Maybe I need a bit of that to help me think. But you are ignoring a lot of what I say to fit a narrative which seems to be made up of things I never said nor did. (When did I not ask questions? When did I expect anyone to R&D for me?)

Ok. In your view, in light of my goals and motivations what questions should I ask?
 
You didn't "forget" about that place, you got run off the site. You're so dedicated to learning, but all you do it trot out your dumb design with just a different application.

Several folks already told you about this, but I'll bite:

The first step would be to ditch your 3d designs, as they're totally pointless.

Next, Stop shopping around your projects. Again, nobody cares about your "proof of concepts"

Then, focus on getting a PCB, learning what makes it work, ect.

You're putting the cart before the horse's great grandmother at this point.
 
orc.one said:
where masks appear stupidly optional
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Look when I go out I wear a mask because it puts others at ease and I'm not looking to freak anyone out.
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But "stupidly" optional? Uh... This is merica bro, if I don't wana wear a mask I don't have too, not a GD thing you or anyone else is going to do about that.
My body my choice, AMERICA FUCK YEA!
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"You've been telling lies so long some believe their true, so they close their eyes to things you have no right to do"
Steppenwolf - Don't Step on the Grass Sam
 
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jassin000 said:
But "stupidly" optional? Uh... This is merica bro, if I don't wana wear a mask I don't have too, not a GD thing you or anyone else is going to do about that.
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Except lock you up in county for a month out here.

More states should take it seriously.
 
rewrite said:
lock you up in county for a month out here
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Well yea, everyone knows CA is a liberal hellscape (aka we can tell you what to do because we know whats best for YOU).
Small price to pay for regular access to candy cabs? Maybe...
But I like it right here in NH, where its not illegal to ride a motorcycle without a helmet or drive a car without a seat-belt fuck even auto insurance for that matter.

LIVE FREE OR DIE baby!

Also we have cheap liquor and easy access to firearms which is always an awesome combo.
 
jassin000 said:
But I like it right here in NH, where its not illegal to ride a motorcycle without a helmet or drive a car without a seat-belt hell even insurance.
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The difference here is that masks protect OTHER people.

And the things you've listed are opting out of SELF-protection.

Allow people to opt out of self-protection all you want. Let people die if that's their wish. Letting them infect/affect/intrude on others because they're lazy/inconvenienced/muh rights/whatever is just plain irresponsible.


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It's about protecting OTHER people, and that's why it should be mandatory. You can do whatever you want with your own body, but not wearing a mask is putting OTHER bodies at risk.
 
rewrite said:
It's about protecting OTHER people
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I am not responsible for the health/well-being of others, nor should I be required to be.
Can't you see whats wrong with your image above?
Unless I'm actively sneezing on you/in your general direction its not the same at all, apples and oranges bro.

If others are fearful I suggest they stay home, which I support BTW because that is their body and their choice to make.

I also do wear a mask when I go out, but I don't ever want to see that become a law/mandate because that crosses the line into my personal freedom (and you don't have the right to do that no matter how scared you are).
 
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