What's new

nem

Legendary
Joined
May 29, 2016
Messages
5,087
Reaction score
4,773
Location
Finland
Since the subforum is 'Jamma and pre-Jamma', maybe that's where we should draw the line? Otherwise you can add stuff like MaiMai, IIDX and all sorts of other junk to the list.

nem, how did you wire the Hoops harness? Do you know the AUX connector so I can make my own (or ask to be made ;) )?
I'm not sure what the official connector is. I'm guessing it's JST RA, but I could be wrong.

This said, it is standard 2.54mm pitch, so you don't have to use the official connector. Personally, I just quickfired a makeshift harness with Dupont connectors. You could use Dupont, JST RA, or even any 50-pin IDC ribbon cable and just hack off the end.
 

nem

Legendary
Joined
May 29, 2016
Messages
5,087
Reaction score
4,773
Location
Finland
I added 'optional' before unique to drive across the point that all the games can be played with one screen, but have additional elements if you wire them up to a second screen. That was my (somewhat badly worded) original intent of the thread. I then deleted a ton of games from the list. Stuff like Darius is super cool, but the second and third screens aren't optional at all. There's a list for them, but this isn't it :P

Anyone want to contest any of the games on the list or can think of others that belong on it? I tried a few of them on Mame. Touch And Go definitely belongs on the list, it works exactly like Hoops.
 

Battlesmurf

Professional
Joined
Aug 23, 2016
Messages
478
Reaction score
357
Location
California USA
anybody up for a couple harnesses? I have a few of these that would be great done up.
 

twistedsymphony

Enlightened
Staff member
Immortal
Joined
Jul 21, 2015
Messages
10,909
Reaction score
11,367
Location
NH, USA
So Recently I was adding some MAME games to a TTX2 multi and had an epiphany... a wide-screen LCD monitor in a vewlix makes for a good excuse to setup multi-monitor games.

So in addition to the games already listed in this thread I started working out other games (namely those that use joystick/buttons) that produce a wide image through multiple monitors.

Multi CRT with Joystick/buttons:
  • Darius
  • Darius II/Sagaia
  • The Ninja Warriors
  • Tecmo Bowl
  • Warrior Blade: Rastan Saga Episode 3
  • Xmen (6-Player Version)
Vertically-stacked Multi CRT games
  • Punch-Out
  • Super Punch Out
  • Nintendo Playchoice-10
  • Sega Mega-Tech System
Multi CRT with non-Standard Controls
  • Airline Pilots Deluxe
  • F355 Challenge Deluxe
  • F355 Challenge 2 Deluxe
  • Race Drivin' Panorama
  • Sega Strike Fighter Deluxe
  • TX-1
Multi Wide Screen Displays:
  • Darius Burst
  • Galaxian 3

Anyone have anything else that should be on this list?

It's a real shame there's no option for character selection in the dual-monitor X-Men variant.
 
Last edited:

MetalliC

Grand Master
Joined
Nov 19, 2015
Messages
1,267
Reaction score
1,201
Anyone have anything else that should be on this list?
it depends which kinds of gaming machines you think should to be in the list... like Nintendo PlayChioce-10 or Sega Mega-Tech games
or from memory:
- NAOMI World Club Champions Football, Derby Owners Club and Star Horse series - uses 2 displays for main screens (plus number of satellite player units displays)
- Naomi2 Sega Driving Simulator - 3 screens (consists of 3 comm.bd linked Naomi2s)
- some games supports additional relay/satellite display, iirc something Virtual On series and also Model2 Power Sled (sadly not fully dumped) ?

you may also use some MAME frontend with MAMEUI-inifiles pack and check Screen - Dual screen and Triple Screen lists
 

twistedsymphony

Enlightened
Staff member
Immortal
Joined
Jul 21, 2015
Messages
10,909
Reaction score
11,367
Location
NH, USA
it depends which kinds of gaming machines you think should to be in the list...

I thought the delineation was pretty clear:
games (namely those that use joystick/buttons) that produce a wide image through multiple monitors.

Thanks for the tip on the MAMEUI-inifiles pack, I forgot about that!
 

Asure

Professional
Joined
Jul 24, 2015
Messages
399
Reaction score
410
Location
Netherlands
I'll be damned but i forgot the name, there's a belt-scrolling double dragon type game, that has two actual jamma connectors for dual monitor 4-player support. Not sure, but i think it was from V-System? Kaneko? I cannot find it with these terms on-line.. :(
 

twistedsymphony

Enlightened
Staff member
Immortal
Joined
Jul 21, 2015
Messages
10,909
Reaction score
11,367
Location
NH, USA
Karate Blazers? that's the only dual JAMMA edge beat'em up I can think of. but it doesn't have a double wide screen, it's just got the same video feed on both screens.
 

Hydreigon

Enthusiast
Joined
Sep 15, 2019
Messages
225
Reaction score
87
Location
U.S.
  • Hang Pilot by Konami has two screens stacked vertically for a panoramic view (fed by two separate video boards). Playing that game without the sophisticated cabinet controls requires wiring two potentiometers and patching the made program code to bypass all lock/unlock/motor related errors.
  • Wartran Troopers, Lethal Enforcers 3 and Gundam Spirits of Zeon, all running on PC based hardware, make use of the two video card ports in "multi-monitor" mode configured by the computer.
  • Suzuka 8 Hours makes use a spectator tower and don't know how that fully functions yet. All I know of from a manual is there is a game board in the tower that only receives link data from any game board (while any game board sends link data to both the next game pcb in the network ring and the spectator tower pcb simultaneously). The 7seg display leds are controlled by the I/O CPU's serial port. What configures a pcb to either game or spectator mode is currently unknown.
  • Teraburst is NOT a dual screen game. The confusion behind this presumably came from the gun I/O board's processor, an M68K, reading some sync related parameters. In reality, the guns use CCD cameras for the M68K to read as gun coordinates (and how THAT works is yet to be determined due to the abysmal nature of Konami programming).
  • And last but not least, there is the Konami NWK-TR hardware with two video boards but doesn't output as a dual screen either. The reason is the bottom video board's signal feeds somewhere to the top video board (from some pcb pictures I seen). This is also why I eventually would like a NWK-TR boardset to figure out where exactly the video signal feeds to.
 

twistedsymphony

Enlightened
Staff member
Immortal
Joined
Jul 21, 2015
Messages
10,909
Reaction score
11,367
Location
NH, USA
Wartran Troopers, Lethal Enforcers 3 and Gundam Spirits of Zeon, all running on PC based hardware, make use of the two video card ports in "multi-monitor" mode configured by the computer.
Wow! really? I always assumed they used 2 PCs networked together. Interesting.


This also reminds me of Primeval Hunt on Lindbergh, which uses the second video out on a touch screen display for the game map.
 

Hydreigon

Enthusiast
Joined
Sep 15, 2019
Messages
225
Reaction score
87
Location
U.S.
Wow! really? I always assumed they used 2 PCs networked together. Interesting.
The manual for Lethal Enforcers 3 verifies this. The video card itself has a VGA and DVI video port with the DVI port consisting of a DVI to VGA adapter. Alternatively, one could use a basic DVI to VGA cable without the need for an adapter. Gundam Spirits of Zeon's executable opens some super wide screen application most likely for running both player sides. There exist hacked versions of said executable that only run one player.

Come to think of it, there are more examples of PC arcade hardware that are multi monitor (and one of the more common examples of this is Lane Master).
 

twistedsymphony

Enlightened
Staff member
Immortal
Joined
Jul 21, 2015
Messages
10,909
Reaction score
11,367
Location
NH, USA
Interesting. I've been trying to get a Spirits of Zeon board to run for use on my Light gun setup... (having issues with what I believe is an incorrect video card). would be cool if I could get both player screens to apear on a single wide-screen display.
 

nem

Legendary
Joined
May 29, 2016
Messages
5,087
Reaction score
4,773
Location
Finland
Sukebe on ArcadeOtaku found this pic of a twin screen Dynax cab running Jong Yu Ki:

double_screen_dynax_cab.jpg


(don't mind the watermarks)

There's also Jong Tou Ki released two years later that's a similar twin screen mahjong game.

Very cool.
 
Last edited:
Top