Cave CV1000-D bootlegs a hoy
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This is going into one direction that we don't think is OK. This guy is clearly lying and cheating people. I know of some that bought them thinking that they were original. That was clearly intentional.
They are pretty darn close to original but w8thout the overinflated cost of the ones made in the 2000s. Just like u say in the rules, it is incumbent on the buyer to do their due diligence and research when buying. If u buy one of these for 1000 dollars u can just as easily sell it off for 1000 dollars. If u try to sell it for an original price it ain't gonna happen l. I really see no problem with it. Do your research and u got nothing to worry about.
GoldenGlover
Grand Master
It’s not like the Cave originals have customs that make them unique - to me, these copies are like having 1:1 replicas of the original without the electrons blessed by Cave. These copies might potentially last a lot longer too.
I think its extremely good that these keep the prices for some cave titles at least somewhat sensible since sdoj was creeping up to just insane levels.
Wish these were available for more titles though.
That said yeah, putting fake serials on them is sketchy
Wish these were available for more titles though.
That said yeah, putting fake serials on them is sketchy
That is the point. And not telling that they are repros deliberately.
ItsBobDudes
Grand Master
Bootleggers gonna bootleg. Best we can do is get the word out. The S/N stickers are really low hanging fruit. The first thing the early buyers did was make their own stickers with (thankfully) clearly bogus serial numbers. It was only a matter of time before the bootleggers printed up their own.
Hopefully people will cut down on paying the $1000 price and pepper the seller with sub $500 offers. These bootleggers have to making $700 margin each board they sell at $1k right ?
MetalliC
Champion
I think Cave may do a good business: sell 100% original unique S/N stickers for let's say $2500 for whose who bought repro PCBs, and effectively making them original
Think about how much they could make in cardboard sales
GoldenGlover
Grand Master
I eagerly await the moment I’m going to see a CV-1000 game appraised on “Antiques Roadshow” or in a Sotheby’s auction.
I think Antiques Roadshow had some Atari and NES bits already, so give it 10-20 years and they'll look at rare arcade games.
nidulans
Enthusiast
The most interesting part of Antiques Roadshow is when some unpleasant individual is told their priceless family heirloom is fake. Will be rough to see:
“These are are my grandfather’s original Cave PCBs”
*Intense looking by a 87 year old guy with a jeweller’s set*
“I’m afraid to say they’re reproductions*
Otachi_R1X
Student
So I debased myself and bought one of the guy's SDOJ repros for a decent price of $1000 shipped. For those who have bought from him, how reliable is he with shipping? Any issues receiving your purchase?
kyletwentytwo
Professional
No issues at all, shipping and communication were good.
ChrisBEANS
Professional
So these seem to be bootlegs in the most traditional sense, but maybe better?!
I’m told, back in the ‘bad old days’ factories would have a day shift that made Nike trainers, or Braun shavers, or whatever…
Then the night shift would come on, make the same stuff, same materials, same way, but leave the brand off and sell them at less than half price.
These seem to be exact copies, right? So clearly using original methods, and original components (only their slightly improved versions that are 14 years newer). Correct?
Still high quality manufacture. Still high(er?) quality components. Not some Frankenstein thing like old PCB bootlegs used to be?
No discernible difference in game?
If so, a grand in usd seems a crazy bargain for something basically unobtanium to mere mortals.
Not my thing, but I totally get why people are on board
I’m told, back in the ‘bad old days’ factories would have a day shift that made Nike trainers, or Braun shavers, or whatever…
Then the night shift would come on, make the same stuff, same materials, same way, but leave the brand off and sell them at less than half price.
These seem to be exact copies, right? So clearly using original methods, and original components (only their slightly improved versions that are 14 years newer). Correct?
Still high quality manufacture. Still high(er?) quality components. Not some Frankenstein thing like old PCB bootlegs used to be?
No discernible difference in game?
If so, a grand in usd seems a crazy bargain for something basically unobtanium to mere mortals.
Not my thing, but I totally get why people are on board
Otachi_R1X
Student
Mine’s been in transit for almost two and a half weeks, kind of nervous tbh. Last update was the plane landed, in the US ostensibly, on the 23rd. Hoping I didn’t just piss away a grand.
mybff
Enthusiast
Is it in customs?
They take longer than that to show up
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