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Last time I tried it had initialisation issues and would crash on startup like the old version did. Only after a few tries it would work. This is what it did
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The only one that works 100% for me is the black label.
 
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nnap said:
Last time I tried it had initialisation issues and would crash on startup like the old version did. Only after a few tries it would work. This is what it did
IMG_2621.jpeg

The only one that works 100% for me is the black label.
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I made a lot of runs between Black Label and Master Version and various PGM motherboards. That error of yours only occured for me on the old Dual version and after defeating the last boss
 
I can reproduce the issue reliably. When you reset the mobo memory by holding the switch on the mobo and then start the (old) version it will crash with the error in the screenshot above. You can also try multiple times with the (old) version and it will crash each time. When you start the (new) version once on that mobo, the (old) version will also work afterwards. When you reset the memory, it will crash again. So it looks like the Black Label (new) version is doing some initialization that the White Label (old) version does not do.
 
nnap said:
I can reproduce the issue reliably. When you reset the mobo memory by holding the switch on the mobo and then start the (old) version it will crash with the error in the screenshot above. You can also try multiple times with the (old) version and it will crash each time. When you start the (new) version once on that mobo, the (old) version will also work afterwards. When you reset the memory, it will crash again. So it looks like the Black Label (new) version is doing some initialization that the White Label (old) version does not do.
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So then, this is related to NVRAM magic value. In MAME says this internal value is necessary in Black Label, so it must be well hacked in the new version
 
nnap said:
Last time I tried it had initialisation issues and would crash on startup like the old version did. Only after a few tries it would work. This is what it did
IMG_2621.jpeg

The only one that works 100% for me is the black label.
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nnap said:
I can reproduce the issue reliably. When you reset the mobo memory by holding the switch on the mobo and then start the (old) version it will crash with the error in the screenshot above. You can also try multiple times with the (old) version and it will crash each time. When you start the (new) version once on that mobo, the (old) version will also work afterwards. When you reset the memory, it will crash again. So it looks like the Black Label (new) version is doing some initialization that the White Label (old) version does not do.
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Apologies for the necro bump but I recently just updated my fluffy carts to the Ketsui OG + Matsuri and the White/Black Label introless P1 and U5.

I've got two fluffy carts both exhibiting the same issue as @nnap in the pic above when booting directly to White Label from the menu. If I go into Black Label service menu and then go into White Label the game starts up and plays fine - which I believe was the behaviour of the old dual rom

I've burnt the introless P1 and U5 multiple times and it's exactly the same result. In one cart, there was probably an instance it booted straight away, but I couldn't get it to boot straight away after numerous attempts.

I'm using the "Do Donpachi Dai-ou-Jou ( Introless / Black White menu )" P1 and U5 from https://igspgm.com/engtrans/index.htm

Do Donpachi Dai-ou-Jou ( Introless / Black White menu )
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New Introless Program Rom with the original working Black / White menu. This Rom was supplied by "Tailsnic Retroworks". Big thanks to him for all his work on this! It was a huge amount of work! Just burn to a 27C322 Eprom and replace the P1 Rom. You will also need to program a new GAL16V8 for U5. This is included in the RAR file (U5_DDP_INTROLESS.jed)
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I've tried three different PGM mobos and all exhibit the same issue.

The U5 GAL I'm using is a Lattice GAL16V8D and I have the pull up resistors installed. Both games work fine as I've credit fed through, it's just that initial startup that has an issue and wondering if there's anyone else experiencing this with the latest introless DOJ rom or has found a fix for it?

I also tried replacing the CR3032 battery and it made no change.

Any suggestions? TIA
 
mR_CaESaR said:
Apologies for the necro bump but I recently just updated my fluffy carts to the Ketsui OG + Matsuri and the White/Black Label introless P1 and U5.

I've got two fluffy carts both exhibiting the same issue as @nnap in the pic above when booting directly to White Label from the menu. If I go into Black Label service menu and then go into White Label the game starts up and plays fine - which I believe was the behaviour of the old dual rom

I've burnt the introless P1 and U5 multiple times and it's exactly the same result. In one cart, there was probably an instance it booted straight away, but I couldn't get it to boot straight away after numerous attempts.

I'm using the "Do Donpachi Dai-ou-Jou ( Introless / Black White menu )" P1 and U5 from https://igspgm.com/engtrans/index.htm



I've tried three different PGM mobos and all exhibit the same issue.

The U5 GAL I'm using is a Lattice GAL16V8D and I have the pull up resistors installed. Both games work fine as I've credit fed through, it's just that initial startup that has an issue and wondering if there's anyone else experiencing this with the latest introless DOJ rom or has found a fix for it?

I also tried replacing the CR3032 battery and it made no change.

Any suggestions? TIA
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Clear the ram.
 
mR_CaESaR said:
Thanks, that seems to have worked. Will get do the same for the other boards and test.

Initially thought that toggling SW3 cleared the ram, but I needed to go into test mode and do a system reset.
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DDP black label has an issue of "magic ram values". So you need to clean the PGM ram for the game to work good.
 
mR_CaESaR said:
is that every time after you change to a new game?

Seems like it is, changed the game and powered on, chose white label and the same error appeared.
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At least between Espgaluda and Ketsui doesn't make a bad ram for my motherboard, as far as I have tested.
 
I just did another test..
  • cleared the ram on the mobo (just making sure I'm doing it correctly, it's dip switch 1 on, go into System reset right?)
  • turned the cab on and the game worked fine on white label
  • turned the cab off, waited 10 mins, turned the cab on, game glitched out with the same error.
The most reliable way for me of getting into white label without fail is to go to the service menu of BL then exit and choose WL on the menu
 
mR_CaESaR said:
I just did another test..
  • cleared the ram on the mobo (just making sure I'm doing it correctly, it's dip switch 1 on, go into System reset right?)
  • turned the cab on and the game worked fine on white label
  • turned the cab off, waited 10 mins, turned the cab on, game glitched out with the same error.
The most reliable way for me of getting into white label without fail is to go to the service menu of BL then exit and choose WL on the menu
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Is strange because I haven't done ram cleaning in any of my mobos and this game works good.
 
iq_132 said:
你好，
我解开了几款PGM游戏的保护，并希望记录下来，因为它们可能对未来的闪存卡开发者有所帮助。
我会在制作时添加它们。

东方传奇超级版（olds103t在MAME中）已经解除保护！
Ketsui 提供解保护版本。
Espgaluda 提供解保版本。
Puzzli 2 / 超级 [一些错误] - 2023年9月9日添加 - 暂时移除
东方传奇 [未发现任何错误，未进行充分的错误测试] - 2023年9月13日添加
DoDonPachi III / DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou [没有发现错误，但在Lidz车上有崩溃现象，在Fluffy上运行正常?] - 添加于2023年9月13日
英勇骑士 / 英勇骑士增强版 [未发现错误，未进行广泛测试] - 添加于2023年9月14日
东方传奇超级增强版 [没有发现任何错误，只玩了前面几关] - 2023年9月15日添加
照片 Y2K2 [没有注意到错误，投入了很少的游戏时间] - 添加于 2023年9月15日
PGM 3合1 [没有发现错误，投入了很少的游戏时间] - 添加于2023年9月15日
龙之谷世界II（未发现任何漏洞，有些游玩时间，已在毛绒手推车上测试过的真硬件上测试）- 2023年9月27日添加
照片 Y2K - 添加于2024年1月22日。
拼图星 - 添加于2024年1月23日 - 注意 - 这是基于MAME的不完整保护模拟，你可能会遇到问题。

如果你喜欢我的作品：
https://www.patreon.com/iq_132
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你好kov（三国战纪119/117/115）人物名字，游戏其它界面文字，有中文的没有，谢谢
 
iq_132 said:
你好，
我已经解开了几款PGM游戏的保护，并希望记录下来，因为它们可能对未来的闪存卡开发者有所帮助。
我会在制作时添加它们。

东方传奇超级版（olds103t在MAME中）已经解除保护！
Ketsui 提供解保护版本。
Espgaluda 提供解保版本。
Puzzli 2 / 超级 [一些错误] - 2023年9月9日添加 - 暂时移除
东方传奇 [未发现任何错误，未进行充分的错误测试] - 2023年9月13日添加
DoDonPachi III / DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou [没有发现错误，但在Lidz车上有崩溃现象，在Fluffy上运行正常?] - 添加于2023年9月13日
英勇骑士 / 英勇骑士增强版 [未发现错误，未进行广泛测试] - 添加于2023年9月14日
东方传奇超级增强版 [没有发现任何错误，只玩了前面几关] - 2023年9月15日添加
照片 Y2K2 [没有注意到错误，投入了很少的游戏时间] - 添加于 2023年9月15日
PGM 3合1 [没有发现错误，投入了很少的游戏时间] - 添加于2023年9月15日
龙之谷世界II（未发现任何错误，有些游戏时间，已在毛绒手推车上测试过的实际硬件上测试）- 2023年9月27日添加
照片 Y2K - 2024年1月22日添加。
拼图星 - 添加于2024年1月23日 - 注意 - 这是基于MAME的不完整保护模拟，您可能会遇到问题。

如果你喜欢我的作品：
https://www.patreon.com/iq_132
Click to expand...
能把三国战纪输出做成中文的吗。谢谢
 
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