Mutant Fighter GAL16V8 jedec files

[Tailsnic Retroworks]

Hi. I want to ask if anyone has the 8 encrypted GAL16V8 files of the game Mutant Fighter from DATA EAST. I have tried to convert the PAL16 dumps from the PLD wiki, but I haven't done that before and I'm lost.

My original board uses GAL16V8, so I suppose someone has repaired one with GAL16V8 files (I have GAL16V8B in stock). Any help would be very appreciated, really.

 

[ekorz]

There’s nothing to convert, you program the .jed file to your GAL and you’re done!

 

[Tailsnic Retroworks]

There’s nothing to convert, you program the .jed file to your GAL and you’re done!

The files are adapted to PAL16L8, they are not the same as I have been told.

EDIT: also, if you use JEDUTIL with the instruction for viewing the compatible memory types with the files, GAL16V8 isn't on the list

 

[ekorz]

Ah I didn't see that! usually they're targetted for gal16v8 already.

Well I haven't tried it but you could give this a shot: paltogal.exe from lattice if you have a 32 bit computer somewhere
https://www.latticesemi.com/en/Support/AnswerDatabase/7/1/710
Instructions: https://www.princeton.edu/~mae412/HANDOUTS/EMP21 doc/GAL16V8.htm

Or jedutil to spit out the equations, and something like wincupl to rebuild from there, but that's more involved:

jedutil -view MutantFighter_TR-1.jed PAL16L8

 

[ShootTheCore]

I have a parts donor original Mutant Fighter board and I’d happily give you the PALs if you cover shipping.

 

[Tailsnic Retroworks]

I have a parts donor original Mutant Fighter board and I’d happily give you the PALs if you cover shipping.

Many thanks. I'll take it in mind if I don't find a way for creating the GAL16V8 files.

@ekorz Caius told me PALTOGAL isn't assured to work in the conversion, and I don't know how to port the equations to Wincupl. That's my problem, xD. I haven't done anything about encryption pics before, I am a newbie

 

[ekorz]

yeah..... I can't say this is my strong suit either but here's a try (and maybe the kick-start you need to figure it out).
Grab winCUPL: https://www.microchip.com/en-us/products/fpgas-and-plds/spld-cplds/pld-design-resources
output equations with the command I put in above
When loading wincupl go to Options>Compiler>Library and select the included Atmel.dl
use the attached PLD file as a template (it is my attempt at converting the 1st PLD and you can run it to generate a GAL, and use it to see how it was built from the equations)
follow the general instructions in the attached lecture05.pdf - it's not exact but it's close
It should take that PLD and build you a JED for the gal16v8 target
in theory
(The gals are thankfully erasable!!)

files: https://mega.nz/file/J1RiXLAL#q4nr-P6jtl3qRBmL5VwlUEfK2SKeKHpq-KZikOmMjwI

what I am not sure about...
Mame says 'o12.oe = vcc' i.e. output enable = Vcc and I really didn't know what to do with that information, so I omitted it and the file built successfully anyway.
The linebreaks in the mame outputted equations used "+" and I converted those to just single lines with "&" but that might have been a mistake.

Hopefully you can fiddle with that from here!

Maybe @ShootTheCore (or anyone following?) can try burning this attached result/JED in place of his TR-1 to check my work if his parts/donor still boots

 

[ShootTheCore]

Sorry, but I won’t be able to test the files - my parts donor has already had some customs removed and it isn’t functional.

 

[stj]

there are several versions of "PAL2GAL" just so you know.
and last time i tested them, they only worked in dos.
although thats fine because you can get a freedos livedisk on a usb stick

 

[Tailsnic Retroworks]

Many thanks to all for your help. I'm trying to figure out the GALs conversion yet. I'll tell you when I know something about