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Sega Model 1 help

ItsBobDudes said:
The printout in GamingDoyle's pic looks like a JAMMA edge printout. I used the same image MrHide linked to make my VF1 harness.

What game are you trying to run?
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I'm not trying to run any game, per-say, but rather I have a VF1 cab that has a (poorly) JAMMA-ized harness. I picked up an original VF1 harness to put into it, and have an unobtainium part I would like to make an adapter with. The BS25P-SHF-1AA is a 25-pin JST-NH header with a side entry instead of a top entry. I would like to create a small fingerboard that allows me to use the JST-NH header and soldered wires to an JST-NH connector to create a Model1 harness to Model2 harness. This is what I have so far in KiCad but I want to label everything on it for ease of use, even though it's very specialized and very limited hardware, lol:

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GamingDoyle said:
Attached @biggestsonicfan , seems the forum won't let me upload excel so I zipped it
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Oh that's very slick, thank you!
 
Hi! :)

Could someone give me the exact correspondence of the CN2 pin of the soundboard to the connector of the Filterboard to make the cable :saint:

THANKS :thumbup:

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ItsBobDudes said:
I actually power the Model 1 I/O on an New Astro City PSU via a JAMMA finger board, and power the game board, sound board, stereo amp using a Happ.

If you don't have the original wire loom that goes from the filter board to the sound board check out this THREAD.
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Sorry to exhume an old post, but I found this while trying to wrap my head around getting a VF1 board up and running. I've solved most of the mysteries, but am still shaky on power (the last thing I want to take any chances on).

I know Astro City 2 has a 400-5220 PSU that works specifically for VF1/Model 1.

I hardly ever see Astro City 2 parts come up though. New Astro City and Blast City seem to be in much higher supply, and I've seen VF1 running on both of these.

I can get my hands on a New Astro City PSU (400-5261) with a JAMMA fingerboard/harness, as well as a VF1 JAMMA harness.

It sounds like, barring an Astro City 2 or original VF1 cabinet power board, a Happ PSU is necessary on top of that, though? Could you walk me through what I'd need for the power setup/wiring in detail to rig a setup like yours?
 
OriginalName said:
Sorry to exhume an old post, but I found this while trying to wrap my head around getting a VF1 board up and running. I've solved most of the mysteries, but am still shaky on power (the last thing I want to take any chances on).

I know Astro City 2 has a 400-5220 PSU that works specifically for VF1/Model 1.

I hardly ever see Astro City 2 parts come up though. New Astro City and Blast City seem to be in much higher supply, and I've seen VF1 running on both of these.

I can get my hands on a New Astro City PSU (400-5261) with a JAMMA fingerboard/harness, as well as a VF1 JAMMA harness.

It sounds like, barring an Astro City 2 or original VF1 cabinet power board, a Happ PSU is necessary on top of that, though? Could you walk me through what I'd need for the power setup/wiring in detail to rig a setup like yours?
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I actually moved on to an NVS-4000 PSU. This is a pretty common pinout among Sega PSUs:
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The harness I use has 2 wires coming from each +5V spot for a total of 12 and 2 wires for each GND spot for a total of 10. Just make sure not to use that +12V for anything you're not supposed to.

When I was using a HAPP I had all the required +5V and GND linked up to a spade connector.
 
I was thinking that can’t be right, there’s always at least one 5220 on buyee. But I checked, nope, maybe they are drying up. I used to use a PC PSU to be the supplemental 5v / 12v, that worked fine even though no adj isn’t ideal. (I have an AC2 now with a 5220) As long as it has suitable amperage it really doesn’t matter what you use though. 5220 specs:
  • SJ25-0111-01: +5V 7A, +12V 1.5A, -5V 0.1A
  • PJ25-0013-01: +5V 12A (15A peak)
I’m surprised you’ve seen a model 1 in a Blast or NAC it would be hard to fit. Guess you could de-cage it and kind of work it out. Or in a NAC maybe it could fit vertically or leaned at an angle?
 
Most the VF1 board sets I see, the cage is long gone and they go for cheap and untested. I mounted all my boards to both sides of the plywood, wires going everywhere, but it fits in an NAC.
 
Thanks so much for the fast response Bob, I actually was not aware of the NVS-4000 line at all, those seem versatile, and seem to have a lot of pre-made looms out there which is a plus. These also seem to be a bit sparse at the moment, but it gives me more options to look for.

Thank you for those specs, Doyle - I'll keep looking and see what i can find! Also good to know that 400-5220's aren't usually in short supply - I'm working from a small sample size, so may just need to be patient.

Bob gave a great answer but, seeing it in a Blast City here - very possible it's sitting outside the cab for this shot, though:
https://www.arcade-projects.com/thr...tro-city-2-nnc-restorations.23530/post-417117

In an Astro City (1) here. According to Google Translate, this person built a custom rack to fit it into the cab. I misremembered it being in a New Astro City, but if I'm not mistaken they're the same dimensions.
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=179&t=5772632
 
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Those are Model 2 and Model 3 cages. Those easily fit into a Blast/NAC. The Model1 cage is 50% longer and only fits in Wood cabs or the Astro 2's backpack.
 
ItsBobDudes said:
Those are Model 2 and Model 3 cages. Those easily fit into a Blast/NAC. The Model1 cage is 50% longer and only fits in Wood cabs or the Astro 2's backpack.
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In the Chinese blog? It's way down toward the bottom, but he does remove the VF1 guts from the Model 1 cage and refit a custom cage to fit it into the Astro City (1). For whatever reason he talks about VF2 - VF5 first before getting into VF1. He apparently was inspired by some Japanese figurines to find a way to stuff VF1 into an Astro City.

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I know this isn't a typical setup though - really only referenced it in regards to my search for info on powering VF1, which lead me down the City cab rabbit hole.
 
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OriginalName said:
In the Chinese blog? It's way down toward the bottom, but he does remove the VF1 guts from the Model 1 cage and refit a custom cage to fit it into the Astro City (1). For whatever reason he talks about VF2 - VF5 first before getting into VF1. He apparently was inspired by some Japanese figurines to find a way to stuff VF1 into an Astro City.

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I know this isn't a typical setup though - really only referenced it in regards to my search for info on powering VF1, which lead me down the City cab rabbit hole.
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Just wanted to say hi here 😊

I talked about VF2 first in the blog because that’s where my VF journey really started. I did play VF1 before VF2 was released, but honestly it never quite clicked for me. It was tough to control the characters back then.

After collecting VF2 through VF5, I eventually felt that I had to get VF1 as well to complete the collection. That’s why I mentioned VF1 later on in the blog.

Right now, I’ve installed the VF1 PCB in my Astro City 2 cabinet, though I’m still using a custom cage for the setup 😅
 
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