i vote for the HAS Supergun (and Minigun supergun) style kick harness plug.
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I vote CPS2 for kicks also. All my jamma cabs have it, or an adapter to it.
The spacing is the same between JST NH and PH headers. But the Minigun doesn't have the ground connectors. I don't know about the HAS, but I would think it doesn't have the ground connections either? In any case, Superguns are designed to connector arcade PCB's to consumer displays and PVM's. You can already connect consoles to such displays. Doesn't make sense to use such a connector. JAMMAizer is for arcade cabinets where you would never find a kick harness in a cab using JST PH connectors.
CPS1 connector is fine (EDIT: to make space for B4 & B
@Arthrimus knows CPS2 is preferred. He’s trying to make room for buttons 7 & 8 without increasing footprint.
CPS2 is preferable, but CPS1 is fine given the trade-off.
CPS2 is preferable, but CPS1 is fine given the trade-off.
Playing devil’s advocate, I kinda agree with this.
The HAS has the 6pin JST XH connection which is small enough to be able to squeeze in anywhere.
Besides, a full CPS2 connector is a huge waste of space. The full connector is supposed to house full P3 and P4 buttons, along with kicks for P1 and P2. I doubt people are planning on playing the 4-player games, having to deal with multitaps...and of course, having a 4P setup.
And I don’t know about you guys, but the idea of having to find or put together a female-to-male CPS2 harness sounds daunting compared to a simple 6-pin adapter cable.
I'm sorry, but this is confusing to me. The kick harness connector on the JAMMAizer is equivalent to a kick harness connector on an arcade PCB. So it makes sense to use something that is standard in most cabs. It seems like the consensus that the CPS2 kick harness is the most common option, and no one would have a cabinet wired with a JST XH kick harness because I don't think there are any arcade PCBs that use it. Everyone would have to use proprietary adapter cable in that case.
Well it would be reversed, right?
Kick buttons from the controller PCB’s output to the 6-pin port, then you’d have a jst-to-female CPS2...Hmm wait, now that I’ve worked it out in my head, a full CPS2 port is easier since you’d be taking the connector from a CPS2 PCB and straight connecting it to the Jammafier.
Lol, never mind! I can admit when I’m wrong.
Kick buttons from the controller PCB’s output to the 6-pin port, then you’d have a jst-to-female CPS2...Hmm wait, now that I’ve worked it out in my head, a full CPS2 port is easier since you’d be taking the connector from a CPS2 PCB and straight connecting it to the Jammafier.
Lol, never mind! I can admit when I’m wrong.
CPS2 it is then! Although, CPS1 isn't a big deal either if it makes PCB design-life easier. Lots of us have kick harnesses terminated to both CPS1 and CPS2. But Supergun? Supergun = Presence of no cab. JAMMAizer = Console JAMMA adapter for cabs.
Anyways, thanks for taking our feedback. Can't wait! I am Ginuwine right now.........
Anyways, thanks for taking our feedback. Can't wait! I am Ginuwine right now.........
Looks like I'll be staying with the CPS2 kick harness connector.
Alright, next question. For the auxiliary button harness, what would be the preferred connector type? Currently I have it as a JST XH connector, but I'm wanting to make connecting the auxiliary harness as easy as possible for the end user, so I was thinking about switching to 2x 5 pin JST NH type connectors. Each connector would be wired for Home, Select, P4, K4 and GND, one connector per player. That way instead of having to crimp and pin your own connectors, you could easily purchase one of the readily available Sanwa JLF wiring harnesses and solder/crimp that to your existing cabinet wiring or extend it as needed to connect the extra buttons.
Alright, next question. For the auxiliary button harness, what would be the preferred connector type? Currently I have it as a JST XH connector, but I'm wanting to make connecting the auxiliary harness as easy as possible for the end user, so I was thinking about switching to 2x 5 pin JST NH type connectors. Each connector would be wired for Home, Select, P4, K4 and GND, one connector per player. That way instead of having to crimp and pin your own connectors, you could easily purchase one of the readily available Sanwa JLF wiring harnesses and solder/crimp that to your existing cabinet wiring or extend it as needed to connect the extra buttons.
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JST NH or XH shouldn't matter for the Open Source user that will be assembling this on their own. The pitch is the same (2.50mm). The user can use either provided there is enough clearance on the side for the JST NH latch to fit. So for guys going for prefabbed JAMMAizers, it would probably be split down the middle between JST NH and JST XH.
If I were to pick, JST XH is easier to disconnect and therefore has an advantage.
If I were to pick, JST XH is easier to disconnect and therefore has an advantage.
Yea, now that I think about it, the HAS kick harness makes no sense for this project.
