edwin128
Student
Yes. A great alternative to the Analogue's monopoly on these kind of devices!
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SNK-NEO-GEO
Enlightened
Analogue's products worth every penny and they are doing a great work and it is priced right..
Take a look - PC CRT monitor + HDFURY II + super NT and NT mini @720p looks great.. the device was intended for LCD but I love CRT and looks best there.. I tried all the LCDs and OLED in the house but this setup is what I recommend.
Take a look - PC CRT monitor + HDFURY II + super NT and NT mini @720p looks great.. the device was intended for LCD but I love CRT and looks best there.. I tried all the LCDs and OLED in the house but this setup is what I recommend.
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DE-10 has lots of capabilities. The upper limit would be around simulating Playstation 2. Which is quite impressive
(of course this will take years, as somebody needs to create the whole VHDL files first, i.e. reverse engineer the machine)Agreed. Analogue has good products.
However, MiSTer can do analogue output also - outputting native whatever weird resolution/refreshrates the original HW did - , meaning CRT and LCD. And for a whole lot less $$$.
Analogue and MiSTer are different products, it's very unlikely that MiSTer is going to support the original cart slots or the expansions ports for all system they emulate, and that's the point of Analogue, Ultimate64, ZX Uno XL, ZX Next, Zenmix and similar solutions.
Anyway, I had lot of hope with Analogue when they released the NT Mini... but I lost all my interest when all the new products only supported hdmi output
I'm also glad that there are commercial solutions. It's of course very nice having someone working for free to make us happy, but there's nothing wrong with paying for it as well.
The most important is to have choices, and the more the merrier.
Anyway, I had lot of hope with Analogue when they released the NT Mini... but I lost all my interest when all the new products only supported hdmi output
I'm also glad that there are commercial solutions. It's of course very nice having someone working for free to make us happy, but there's nothing wrong with paying for it as well.
The most important is to have choices, and the more the merrier.
edwin128
Student
It is just a matter of time for cartridges adapters to be build and interact with the Mister. Then, Analogue will start shaken!Analogue and MiSTer are different products, it's very unlikely that MiSTer is going to support the original cart slots or the expansions ports for all system they emulate, and that's the point of Analogue, Ultimate64, ZX Uno XL, ZX Next, Zenmix and similar solutions.
Anyway, I had lot of hope with Analogue when they released the NT Mini... but I lost all my interest when all the new products only supported hdmi output
I'm also glad that there are commercial solutions. It's of course very nice having someone working for free to make us happy, but there's nothing wrong with paying for it as well.
The most important is to have choices, and the more the merrier.
Given SD2SNES is also roped in to MiSTer project all the special chips will be emulated as well and the team will have the knowhow to emulate the cart mechanism logically.(instead of dumping the roms like the Retron boxes).It is just a matter of time for cartridges adapters to be build and interact with the Mister. Then, Analogue will start shaken!
Cart adaptors would be the ultimate though because if people cant dump their own roms they can just use their old carts.
The point you’re missing is that they aim for conpletely different markets. I’m not interested in flashing cores, ordering some plexi with standoffs and putting together some piece of hardware with cartridge adapters and expansions and what not. Sometimes you just want your stuff to work and play with it, and not spend all your free time dicking around getting things assembled and working. I think analogue made some nice products for very reasonable prices (ok not the alu nes thing) and i have no problem with them earning fron their productIt is just a matter of time for cartridges adapters to be build and interact with the Mister. Then, Analogue will start shaken!Analogue and MiSTer are different products, it's very unlikely that MiSTer is going to support the original cart slots or the expansions ports for all system they emulate, and that's the point of Analogue, Ultimate64, ZX Uno XL, ZX Next, Zenmix and similar solutions.
Anyway, I had lot of hope with Analogue when they released the NT Mini... but I lost all my interest when all the new products only supported hdmi output
I'm also glad that there are commercial solutions. It's of course very nice having someone working for free to make us happy, but there's nothing wrong with paying for it as well.
The most important is to have choices, and the more the merrier.
edwin128
Student
A company can make a similar product based on mister that is plug-play solution will make competition to Analogue. Right now, the markets are different with some overlap.The point you’re missing is that they aim for conpletely different markets. I’m not interested in flashing cores, ordering some plexi with standoffs and putting together some piece of hardware with cartridge adapters and expansions and what not. Sometimes you just want your stuff to work and play with it, and not spend all your free time dicking around getting things assembled and working. I think analogue made some nice products for very reasonable prices (ok not the alu nes thing) and i have no problem with them earning fron their productIt is just a matter of time for cartridges adapters to be build and interact with the Mister. Then, Analogue will start shaken!Analogue and MiSTer are different products, it's very unlikely that MiSTer is going to support the original cart slots or the expansions ports for all system they emulate, and that's the point of Analogue, Ultimate64, ZX Uno XL, ZX Next, Zenmix and similar solutions.
Anyway, I had lot of hope with Analogue when they released the NT Mini... but I lost all my interest when all the new products only supported hdmi output
I'm also glad that there are commercial solutions. It's of course very nice having someone working for free to make us happy, but there's nothing wrong with paying for it as well.
The most important is to have choices, and the more the merrier.
I do get the difference as i own a Super nt with a SD2SNES and it is IMO the best way to play SNES on a modern TV today. It's an expensive setup though as i had to buy the Super NT, pay stupid shipping costs (could almost buy a mister in shipping costs alone lol!), 2 8bitdo controllers and the SD2SNES and i'm out more $$ than i paid for some of my complete arcade machines lol
I do need to point out though that a common misconception that MiSTer is a lot of dicking around isn't really true. I've got the DE10 nano board, no add ons (except a standard usb 2.0 hub). There is no custom plexi or anything like to worry about it comes already on it. Super Nt has no analogue output (from a company called analogue, irony?) so if you only want HDMI like a super NT then don't bother getting the IO add on board (as that's all its for). Flashing cores isn't really flashing it's more like loading a core. All you do is copy a file onto a SD card (and its not even picky about where you put the core, put it in some sub-folder if you want) and you load it from the menu, same as copying rom files on
if that's too much hassle then so is a Super Nt as you need to do the same thing to remove the initial bugs.So really whats missing is a nice shiny case, real joystick ports and a cartridge slot. I get that those things ARE important to a lot of people though. Especially the hardcore SNES/NES cartridge collectors and those that want something off-self complete like the original SNES.
I'm currently enjoying Genesis and TG16 games on my DE10 nano with no addons except a usb hub. I recommend MiSTer for anyone who has ever bothered to load up a raspberry pi with emulators, it's just as easy to do and IMO even in these early stages the games just feel better. raspberry pi has terrible lag on its hdmi out and usb ports that you immediately notice as much better when you try MiSTer.
One thing that IS certain is that there is a portion of Analogue customers who do overlap here, some of them will no longer be buying the Mega Sg when it releases because of MiSTer. The real question is what is that portion of users, no one really knows the numbers but they are still there. I don't think it will effect Analogue too badly though because their pre-orders for the Mega Sg are apparently already more than double their Super NT sales (it seems each new system they do has more and more sales).
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edwin128
Student
Yes, I agree. I do prefer to have the option to buy a platform that is open-source, as oppose to buy a more expensive device where you pay loyalties and you are locked to simulate only one machine, and you have to buy an extra device expensive to simulate another one.
SNK-NEO-GEO
Enlightened
My I/O board and Mem are on the way...
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oneleaf86
Grand Master
Been watching a tonne of MiSTer videos recently and just caved. Purchased a DE10 Nano and enough parts to make 10x SRAM boards and 10x I/O boards.
I'll be selling the SRAM/IO kits here for a very reasonable price so keep an eye out
I'll be selling the SRAM/IO kits here for a very reasonable price so keep an eye out
AlxUnderBase
Enlightened
I will have to spare 3 Xs Ram boards + 3 or 4 IO boards 
SmokeMonster
Champion
MiSTer is rad 
So are your video streams about MiSTer.MiSTer is rad
so I ordered a DE10 Nano, where should I be buying an IO and other parts?
I saw on Twitter (was it @SmokeMonster?) that there are new cores being developed and one of the most interesting to me is the CPS-1 arcade core.
For those not up to the latest news, a developer who goes by the name of Ijor recently released its core for the Motorola 68000 claiming it's cycle accurate, which means that we have a possibility of having a 100% perfect emulation of the CPS-1 platform.
The MiSTer is becoming more and more interesting, a project to follow closely.
For those not up to the latest news, a developer who goes by the name of Ijor recently released its core for the Motorola 68000 claiming it's cycle accurate, which means that we have a possibility of having a 100% perfect emulation of the CPS-1 platform.
The MiSTer is becoming more and more interesting, a project to follow closely.
