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[XtraSmiley]

Actually, I think it could be down to only 1-2 frames of lag with certain current equipment.

Not possible, it takes 1~2 frames just to fill the buffer.Then you have to process and output said buffer.

You might be able to get it down to about xRGB mini levels of lag, but that's 16ms (aka not good).

Why are you so sure of this? Here is a link to Fudoh's experiments a LONG time ago with some shitty equipment (by today's standards) where he rotate the image and added only 2 frames. If you follow up on his later experiments on the Shmups forums, you'll see that later as more expensive equipment got cheaper, he was able to maintain 1-2 frames at the most, with the best equipment he could find.

http://yokotate.hazard-city.de

Again, don't want to shit up the HAS thread, feel free to start a thread where we can discuss if you like and I'll go looking for Fudoh's more current threads and I'll also dig up some of the IMs he sent me.

 

[hoagtech]

How could it ever take more than one frame to fill the framebuffer?

"A frame buffer may be designed with enough memory to store two frames worth of video data. In a technique known generally as double buffering or more specifically as page flipping, the framebuffer uses half of its memory to display the current frame. While that memory is being displayed, the other half of memory is filled with data for the next frame."
You need to be able to page flip out the frame to the processor, so you need the double (aka it takes 2 frames before the process/output is even taken into consideration).

I agree with you Jassin but that is a sensitive topic to visual purists.

Its the reason people are using an OSSC and not a "Scaler"

I still use it {XRGB Mini} as it handles HDMI input and scales 240-720p such as the Neo Geo X.

The HDMI to DAC on AV3 route has not been as nice.

 

[SabreAZ]

Well tbh, @jassin000 was right from the beginning. His conversion rate is just way off. He did say "that would add significant 16~32ms (about 12~24 frames) lag."

16.67ms= 1 Frame

16~32ms = approximately 1-2 Frames of lag(not 12~24f)

So in actuality, you all are agreeing with eachother =D

 

[ZoomBoy]

Can anyone point me to a reputable dealer in North America (either a web shop or Ebay link) for a certified Power Supply for the HAS? I purchased what was supposed to be a Meanwell PSU on Ebay and found out I got sent something completely different than advertised

 

[the Goat]

Can anyone point me to a reputable dealer in North America (either a web shop or Ebay link) for a certified Power Supply for the HAS? I purchased what was supposed to be a Meanwell PSU on Ebay and found out I got sent something completely different than advertised

digikey.com

 

[Wraith]

Can anyone point me to a reputable dealer in North America (either a web shop or Ebay link) for a certified Power Supply for the HAS? I purchased what was supposed to be a Meanwell PSU on Ebay and found out I got sent something completely different than advertised

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/360127247409

MWP606 works perfectly and fits RGB’s 3D printed terminal cover

 

[ZoomBoy]

Can anyone point me to a reputable dealer in North America (either a web shop or Ebay link) for a certified Power Supply for the HAS? I purchased what was supposed to be a Meanwell PSU on Ebay and found out I got sent something completely different than advertised

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/360127247409
MWP606 works perfectly and fits RGB’s 3D printed terminal cover

Of course they don't ship to Canada lol.

 

[RGB]

Can anyone point me to a reputable dealer in North America (either a web shop or Ebay link) for a certified Power Supply for the HAS? I purchased what was supposed to be a Meanwell PSU on Ebay and found out I got sent something completely different than advertised

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/360127247409MWP606 works perfectly and fits RGB’s 3D printed terminal cover

Of course they don't ship to Canada lol.

I think they do, try to reach out to them. They also sell through their own online store.

 

[ZoomBoy]

Would this one be overkill?

http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=521_531&products_id=3414

 

[RGB]

I like this one the best - http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=521_526&products_id=4

 

[nem]

Would this one be overkill?

http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=521_531&products_id=3414

It's 10A, so definitely overkill. However, the bigger issue with that is that it only outputs +12V. You want a PSU that outputs +5V, +12V and also -5V.

 

[Neodogg]

I use the same device, it's brilliant.

I use this also, chopstick educated me on it too. Works wonderfully in my set up...

 

[Neodogg]

Can anyone point me to a reputable dealer in North America (either a web shop or Ebay link) for a certified Power Supply for the HAS? I purchased what was supposed to be a Meanwell PSU on Ebay and found out I got sent something completely different than advertised

Budget Arcade Power Supplies

 

[ZoomBoy]

Thanks all, I ended up purchasing the MWP from Twisted Quarter.

Last question! Interested in grabbing an RGB cable for the HAS that goes directly into BNC (skips the SCART connector). Is this cable ideal for the setup to my BVM?

https://retro-access.com/collection...-coaxial-multicore-for-pvm-monitor-and-extron

BNC and RCA cable for Neo Geo AES. Red, green, blue and csync lines are BNC. Audio lines are RCA. 5 feet long as standard. This cable uses composite video to sync the image so it might not be compatible with your extron or PVM.

 

[RGB]

Last question! Interested in grabbing an RGB cable for the HAS that goes directly into BNC (skips the SCART connector). Is this cable ideal for the setup to my BVM?

That^, or my HD-15 module + generic VGA->BNC cable.

 

[ZoomBoy]

Last question! Interested in grabbing an RGB cable for the HAS that goes directly into BNC (skips the SCART connector). Is this cable ideal for the setup to my BVM?

That^, or my HD-15 module + generic VGA->BNC cable.

Thanks for helping my noob self through everything

 

[moltomolto]

Has anyone tried the wireless 2.4g Saturn Retro-Bit controllers with the HAS Saturn adapter? It does register for me, but is constantly spamming one of the kick buttons without input. Curious if there's any way to get this working properly.

 

[the Goat]

Has anyone tried the wireless 2.4g Saturn Retro-Bit controllers with the HAS Saturn adapter? It does register for me, but is constantly spamming one of the kick buttons without input. Curious if there's any way to get this working properly.

I tried and failed to get it to work. Once it did connect. Some buttons were locked on autofire like you describe. Also I think some of the d-pad buttons didn't work right.

 

[moltomolto]

Has anyone tried the wireless 2.4g Saturn Retro-Bit controllers with the HAS Saturn adapter? It does register for me, but is constantly spamming one of the kick buttons without input. Curious if there's any way to get this working properly.

I tried and failed to get it to work. Once it did connect. Some buttons were locked on autofire like you describe. Also I think some of the d-pad buttons didn't work right.

Aw, that's a shame. I wonder if this is fixable through firmware?

 

[RGB]

Has anyone tried the wireless 2.4g Saturn Retro-Bit controllers with the HAS Saturn adapter? It does register for me, but is constantly spamming one of the kick buttons without input. Curious if there's any way to get this working properly.

I tried and failed to get it to work. Once it did connect. Some buttons were locked on autofire like you describe. Also I think some of the d-pad buttons didn't work right.

Aw, that's a shame. I wonder if this is fixable through firmware?

I designed my adapters around the official Sega digital controllers, 3rd party controllers may not work. I plan to update the code once I buy a Retro-Bit controller - for now, I believe you could use @Arthrimus' code with my adapter (with some port number changes), I think his code works with the wireless Saturn controllers.