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Sorry, so far, my boards are designed for parallel FFB boards. The one you mention seems to be a serial FFB board and this is not in my short term plans to support them. But maybe @Aganyte has a board for you.
 
Taken from DM and as advised from Tibal so others can profit too:


Hi Tibal,

First of all I wish you a good day and thank you very much for your hard work when creating these MEGA Adapters.
You said you take orders via PM so here I am.

I must say though I don't need one immediately and I my budget is currently maxed, but I will need one of the adapters later down the line. I contacted you to ask some questions.

I have a Sega Rally Championship model 2 cab and a Le Mans 24 Model 3 Cab. Right now I'm working on converting the Sega Rally.
I bought all the stuff needed for making an M2PAC. My question is:
The backforcefeeder program enables me to use both M2PAC mode and Compatability mode, therefore I do not need to reflash my arduino when changin the game, is this correct? I also don't need to have a PWM2M2 oder your adapter in order to use compatibility mode as it is handled within VJOY?
How do you switch between the modes then? Is there some command that needs to be sent to the arduino?

For the model 3 cab I'm looking into buying one of your adapters, but it's a project I will tackle next year and therefore I'm in no hurry to get one.
I have a few questions about the options the boards come with.
If I get the video converter it means I can just set my graphics card to 640x480 and the board will handle the conversion to 25khz?
Also what exactly is the MultiFFB? If I understand correctly it's a custom eeprom for the drive board that enables other game boards to be connected? Would that mean that if I get that eeprom I can play more games in M2PAC mode instead of compatability mode? If I keep my stock M2PAC does it mean that I can only play only the games that use the same drive board as my Sega Rally?

And then last of all how much does the Model3 Adapter with the different options cost.. also could you tell me the price of the MultiFFB seperately as it might be useful for my Model2 cab and my stock M2PAC solution.
Shipping would be to Switzerland.

Thanks a lot and kind regards,
shanki
 
Thanks shanki :)

shanki91 said:
The backforcefeeder program enables me to use both M2PAC mode and Compatability mode, therefore I do not need to reflash my arduino when changin the game, is this correct?
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Correct! Once your arduino is flashed with the software included in BackForceFeeder archive, you don't need to touch it anymore, whatever the mode (RAW/M2PAC or Compatibility) you use. If I provide the Mega2560 for your Mega Adapter, it's already flashed.

shanki91 said:
I also don't need to have a PWM2M2 oder your adapter in order to use compatibility mode as it is handled within VJOY?
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- If your original FFB boards are working, you don't need a PWM2M2. However, when using Sega Model 2 hardware, you need Sega Rally's Driveboard EPROM on your driveboard (it's the only Model 2 EPROM that BackForceFeeder supports for "Compatibility" Mode) to have FFB on all games. So, for example, a Daytona1 cabinet owner will need to burn Sega Rally EPROM or take a MultiFFB board. In your situation, as you own a Sega Rally cabinet, you already have Sega Rally EPROM on your driveboard, so you can already use Compatibility mode and have FFB on all games.
- If an original FFB board fails or is missing in your Model2 cab, you can order a PWM2M2 and your Mega Adapter will be able to communicate with it.

shanki91 said:
How do you switch between the modes then? Is there some command that needs to be sent to the arduino?
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You switch modes in BackForceFeeder interface. There's an "App&Hardware" window where you select the "Target Hardware". There, you choose between:
- "RAW/M2PAC" mode to use original FFB (all the hardware has to match the game you play. In your case, it will be for Sega Rally 1 only, or SegaRally1+Daytona1+Virtua Racing if you swap driveboard EPROMs or use a MultiFFB board)
- "Comp_M2_SR1" mode to use emulated FFB on all games
- "PWM_Centered" if you use a PWM2M2 (emulated FFB on all games)

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If I get the video converter it means I can just set my graphics card to 640x480 and the board will handle the conversion to 25khz?
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The VideoAmp is not a converter, it's an EDID emulator. It means that when you use it, your PC sees a monitor with 25khz resolution and will send the correct signal. Nothing is converted. You will select something between 512x384, 1024x384 for progressive 25k res or 1024x768 for interlaced 25k res in your video parameters. 640x480 will not be available if your VideoAmp is set for 25k only.

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Also what exactly is the MultiFFB? If I understand correctly it's a custom eeprom for the drive board that enables other game boards to be connected? Would that mean that if I get that eeprom I can play more games in M2PAC mode instead of compatability mode?
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It's just a 8 slot driveboard EPROM selector. It's like swapping original Driveboard EPROMs, but with switches. It's a small board that goes where the original EPROM sits.
For Model 1&2, it allows M2PAC (= original FFB) for Sega Rally 1, Daytona 1 and Virtua Racing games on any of these 3 cabs (as they share the same type of driveboard, only its EPROM differs)

shanki91 said:
If I keep my stock M2PAC does it mean that I can only play only the games that use the same drive board as my Sega Rally?
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I don't see any point into keeping your current M2PAC setup if you use a Mega Adapter with BackForceFeeder, as its functionalities are included.
And if you use only your M2PAC setup, you can only play the 3 games above with FFB (if you change Driveboard EPROMs)

shanki91 said:
And then last of all how much does the Model3 Adapter with the different options cost.. also could you tell me the price of the MultiFFB seperately as it might be useful for my Model2 cab and my stock M2PAC solution.
Shipping would be to Switzerland.
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We'll see that in PM :)
 
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This is not in my short term plans, but as I got an Outrun 2 twin cabinet quite recently, I should work on that sooner or later.
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Thanks for your amazing work Tibal! I´m currently in the process of getting an Outrun 2 SP cab and would be interested in such an adapter too.
So whenever you get around creating one, will it be compatible with Chichiro or Lindbergh or both?
As the one I´m getting is Lindbergh, but the seller also has a Chichiro driveboard left over that I might get if your adapter wouldnt support Lindbergh.
 
ScHlAuChi said:
Thanks for your amazing work Tibal! I´m currently in the process of getting an Outrun 2 SP cab and would be interested in such an adapter too.
So whenever you get around creating one, will it be compatible with Chichiro or Lindbergh or both?
As the one I´m getting is Lindbergh, but the seller also has a Chichiro driveboard left over that I might get if your adapter wouldnt support Lindbergh.
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Still not in my plans yet, sorry.
Chihiro uses a MIDI Servo Board and Lindbergh uses RS Servo Board. The communication protocole is different but the boards are close in design: 1 board for FFB instead of 2 in the previous generations (Drive board + Motor board)
Here is BigPanik's table to sum it up:
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Khatru311 said:
I received my adapters today. I'll be reporting what I find and making a video that will help others connect this in the future.
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Great! Thanks Khatru!
 
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Hello Everyone,

I purchased 3 of these sets and would like to sell them. Emulation is not for me. I purchased the sets for Daytona USA 1.

Plus and play board x3

Multi CFB board x3

Video amp by bandicoot x2

Preconfigured ssd x1

2 sets are un-used. 1 set I used for testing and it works.

DM me if interested.
 

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No, Initial D have JVS connectors. You can use my FFB controller Pro for JVS Cabinet.
 
Indeed, it's not compatible, but not due to JVS as they are both JVS (not the same i/o board though).
It's related to the type of drive/motor/servo board:
ID is equipped with MIDI/RS board type, while f355 is equipped with parallel board type, like in Model 3 cabinets (and older).
Aganyte deals with MIDI/RS type, I deal with Parallel type :)
 
These look great. I have a Sega Touring Car cab that could do with one of these so I can run a PC in it. Looks like I would need a M2B.C MEGA Adapter. How much are these and where would I be able to purchase one from?

I already have a 29 inch 31khz VGA CRT in the cab so that works, just need to be able hook the controls, ffb and sound to the PC. I assume one of these boards can do that?

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Shun said:
Looks like I would need a M2B.C MEGA Adapter
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Exactly :)

Shun said:
How much are these and where would I be able to purchase one from?
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You can order here, just PM me.

Shun said:
I already have a 29 inch 31khz VGA CRT in the cab so that works, just need to be able hook the controls, ffb and sound to the PC. I assume one of these boards can do that?
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Yes! Just check that your PC is always sending 640x480 (=31khz) including during boot time/BIOS and you're fine.
 
Great thanks, I’ll pm you soon. 👍.
The bios and Windows 10 logo run at 800x600 or 1024x768 and so can cause the screen to briefly go funny. I’m powering on the PC separately at the moment and waiting for 30 seconds before powering on the cab. I’m not sure how that can be changed in software, so my plan is to buy one of these and put it on the 100V AC line between the power and the monitor so that the monitor powers on after the bios screen:

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/timer-relays/2641671
 
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