Hi. David. I respond to your feedback, the reason I didn't read your facebook is because I'm on a business trip, it's illegal to use vpn in China, in hotels or other places. I can access facebook when I go back to my office. ( vpn applied) .about 2-3 days i will back. let you about refund message . This forum is available. Not blocked by the china government. about your cab w/parts. yes. got shiper info confiscated of a container in usa customs. . (inside my 3 cabs).total 17 cabs to usa. other 14 cabs some buyer got and most on the land way. I want to be fair. Your business is clearly not in conflict with mine. So I totally understand your feedback article. I do arcade business 33 years ago. in online sales also 20 years . sold about 200k parts and 1k cabs.Understand the importance of credit. some buy don't like me i also know. Because of business conflicts. For example, someone said NNC. . i never for sale NNC to foreign. Because NNC sells at a higher price in China than abroad. thanks. james
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Understood. I only came here because 2 months is a very long time. Usually a few weeks I understand.
I’d also like to point out, my goal here isn’t to get anyone banned or anything like that, it’s to share the experience and seek resolution. That was the goal with KC too; we wanted accountability and better communication of what he does from him. He wasn’t willing to do that. I’ve said it time and again, I don’t want KC gone, I want him accountable. Losing what he provides only puts more pressure on the few of us left doing this. Same goes for Yaton. Bad options are still options, as long as people know what they are in for. Without that, I’d be buried.
Not everyone bringing up negatives about their peers is vindictive or out for only self-gain. I’m just looking for amicable resolution, and others here apparently are as well.
Not everyone bringing up negatives about their peers is vindictive or out for only self-gain. I’m just looking for amicable resolution, and others here apparently are as well.
arcadefanatic56
Enthusiast
Can you also answer me?
I have been asking for my 1k refund since May now. I sent you a few messages on Facebook with info on the Alipay account you can send that refund to but no reply from you. Please send refund.
This Junior Gomez.
Thanks.
I have been asking for my 1k refund since May now. I sent you a few messages on Facebook with info on the Alipay account you can send that refund to but no reply from you. Please send refund.
This Junior Gomez.
Thanks.
kazuo
Champion
NOT use PayPal? Wouldn't using PayPal give you better buyer protection in this scenario compared to the average credit card?
Regarding the customs seizures, I think Yaton posted about it on FB, saying it's related to increasing enforcement of customs laws surrounding import of used electronics from China. I am not an expert on import/export law and I'm far too lazy to research it, but there you go.
Regarding the customs seizures, I think Yaton posted about it on FB, saying it's related to increasing enforcement of customs laws surrounding import of used electronics from China. I am not an expert on import/export law and I'm far too lazy to research it, but there you go.
reclaimer
Professional
PayPal will not protect you in all cases.
Yaton's Paypal account is closed, force closed by PayPal presumably because of some sort of violation on his part. And it's international, which gives PayPal all sorts of excuses to not uphold "buyer protection". PayPal has NOT been able to get me a refund, so I'm trying to work it out with Yaton directly, again.
I WISH I used a credit card. With a credit card I could do a chargeback.
Yaton's Paypal account is closed, force closed by PayPal presumably because of some sort of violation on his part. And it's international, which gives PayPal all sorts of excuses to not uphold "buyer protection". PayPal has NOT been able to get me a refund, so I'm trying to work it out with Yaton directly, again.
I WISH I used a credit card. With a credit card I could do a chargeback.
reclaimer
Professional
All these negative feedback posts is a reminder - trust is everything in this community. And it's really sad when someone can't resolve something (even with a simple refund!) and that trust has to be broken, publicly.
Pretty much this. Even then, they came in questionable boxes. (feminine product boxes) but somehow arrived in one piece and as advertised.
I've bought a lot from Yaton over 18 years and feel its declined greatly with descriptions, pictures for parts, and shipping. You truly are rolling the dice nowadays, even being as cautious as possible.
One thing I will never buy from him is cabs, period. Too many ppl even knowing the risks getting less than they asked for.
skate323k137
Enlightened
It's kinda the opposite, your credit card company is far more likely to have your back. In any situation though, funding paypal with a credit card (not bank) yields good protection, because if you lose the PayPal dispute you can start a chargeback.
The only large country with strict regulations against importing used stuff like this is Brazil. The US is definitely not going to just destroy your container of old arcade machines as stated in that facebook post, it's not contraband.
kazuo
Champion
I've read in some credit card agreements that buyer protection/chargebacks may only apply for "local purchases", which seems a bit odd to me and why I generally prefer to do PP (preferably via credit card). That way, you have two layers of protection like skate said: you can dispute with PP, and failing that, initiate a chargeback with the credit card company.
I know that some credit cards (e.g. Chase Sapphire, AMEX Platinum) will pretty much get your back all the time. Something to consider in the future.
I know that some credit cards (e.g. Chase Sapphire, AMEX Platinum) will pretty much get your back all the time. Something to consider in the future.
skate323k137
Enlightened
Chase is no joke. I have had them put the funds back on my account the same day I opened a dispute.
Same here. Chase offers really solid protection.
H i. tomorrow i will come back. will see you on facebook. thanks james你也可以回答我吗？
自五月以来，我一直在要求我的 1k 退款。我在 Facebook 上向您发送了几条消息，其中包含您可以向其发送退款的支付宝帐户信息，但没有收到您的回复。请发送退款。
这个少年戈麦斯。
谢谢。
arcadefanatic56
Enthusiast
Ok. Thank you. I want to resolve this asap.
please let guys. i refund your 1000usd.
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I had both good and bad experiences with Yaton.
Good : I ordered some spare parts but some was missing. He sent me the missing parts very quick for free.
Bad : I ordered an Astro from him. It came with a large and deep crack on the shell. He didn't wanted to considerate.
Good : I ordered some spare parts but some was missing. He sent me the missing parts very quick for free.
Bad : I ordered an Astro from him. It came with a large and deep crack on the shell. He didn't wanted to considerate.
