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Mitsurugi-w said:
They have arrived!

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Everything seems to be in good condition. I have not unwrapped them but a cursory look-over sees no major shipping damage (if any). The only 'maybe' to shipping damage is one of the side control panel plastic pieces on the Q25 has the corner broke off. The piece isn't in the wrapping or on the truck that delivered it so not sure if it was damaged in transport or if it was that way already. Anyone happen to know of one of those pieces laying around somewhere?

I'll unwrap everything and give them a better look over later today.
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Once unwrapped if it was a decent chunk, check inside the CP.

Otherwise, its wait til Yaton or YAJ lists one sadly.
 
I am thinking it will show up once Mits opens up the CP. But there was nothing on the container in Fremont. And nothing like that was left at the processing site in Fremont, CA.
 
Sharp got back to me. My windy 2 has a bad flyback and they cannot source one. As of now, it is unrepairable.
 
radiantsvgun said:
Sharp got back to me. My windy 2 has a bad flyback and they cannot source one. As of now, it is unrepairable.
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Damn, that's what I fear is the same problem I have with mine. :-/

I wonder if it is worth sending out to them for the hell of it.
 
radiantsvgun said:
Sharp got back to me. My windy 2 has a bad flyback and they cannot source one. As of now, it is unrepairable.
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I think those can be taken apart an refurbed. You can use two part epoxy and completely rebuild it and add a new anode and wire. I see odd Chinese videos and indian videos on youtube of this stuff. Why cant someone do repro tubes and flybacks. The market for it is huge. Makes no sense we need to keep stuff running and the only way to do it is if someone starts aftermarket production. The ability to make multis and yet no ones reproduced some of the I cant find.
 
The market for repro tubes in niche at best. The machines the television tubes were made on were sold to India and South America, then to China. The machines were then disassembled when China out a ban in place.

Tubes are not coming back. It's a long and expensive process to make them. Flybacks on the other hand can be reproduced, but again the market is so niche I don't think anyone cares.
 
radiantsvgun said:
Sharp got back to me. My windy 2 has a bad flyback and they cannot source one. As of now, it is unrepairable.
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Ugh, sorry to hear that. If you were closer I'd give you a monitor, at least you could use the cab then.

I was told 2.5 weeks ago (on a Tuesday) my Domy chassis should be done "by end of week". I'm a bit worried for it at this point, but I sent along an email and we'll see what happens!
 
Hatsune Mike said:
I expect you can pair an MS-293x chassis to the Windy 2 tube, at least?
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really is about yoke setting. Mostly horz inductance. Either way would be easy with yoke swap anyway if you have. if you don't yoke swap here are your values from my read:

Toshiba A68LBT696x (...with stock pair with yoke for Nanao ms2931 aka "blast city")
V - 6.6Ohm 16.0 mh
H - 0.5 ohm 0.19mh

Toshiba A68kzn696x (with stock pair with yoke for toshiba pb7534-1 aka windy 2)
V- 4.7ohm 11.2 mh
H - 0.6ohm 0.22mh
 
The inductance seems to be within range for using a MS293x chassis on Windy 2 tube/yoke.

The yoke connector for horizontal doesn't mate correctly with MS293x chassis though, so you have to build an adapter.

I did that and the next problem I ran into was the neck board cables aren't long enough to make it to the neck from where the chassis sits.

I may "ghetto rig" it just to confirm the chassis works nicely on the tube, then lengthen the neck board cables so I can properly seat the chassis - or I may find another way of mounting the chassis higher up.
 
brad808 said:
Hatsune Mike said:
I expect you can pair an MS-293x chassis to the Windy 2 tube, at least?
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really is about yoke setting. Mostly horz inductance. Either way would be easy with yoke swap anyway if you have. if you don't yoke swap here are your values from my read:
Toshiba A68LBT696x (...with stock pair with yoke for Nanao ms2931 aka "blast city")
V - 6.6Ohm 16.0 mh
H - 0.5 ohm 0.19mh

Toshiba A68kzn696x (with stock pair with yoke for toshiba pb7534-1 aka windy 2)
V- 4.7ohm 11.2 mh
H - 0.6ohm 0.22mh
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As a rule of thumb, the horizontal circuit is generally the more sensitive one. On nearly all monitors, the horizontal oscillation is part of the power supply as well. In the case of the 293x, I'm not sure that is the case. Either way, the horizontal values look very close, so I'll bet there won't be any yoke compatibility problems. I'm willing to bet the vertical is close enough where it is not a problem either.

Do you have a recommended portable LCR meter? It would be nice to measure everything and get a good idea of the acceptable ranges for these various common chassis.
 
My Windy II chassis is at PnL Video. Might have different results even if the flyback is dead. Will update you guys in about a week.
 
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I unwrapped everything to get a better look at what I'm working with. Here is a pic of the missing piece of the control panel side on the Q25. No way for it to end up inside.

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What confused me though is this mess of wires that were just shoved inside the NNC. Anyone have ANY idea what this shit is? I see a 220v transformer.

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This is what's left after I removed all of the wire mess. Is this what is supposed to be in there?

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Mitsurugi-w said:
I unwrapped everything to get a better look at what I'm working with. Here is a pic of the missing piece of the control panel side on the Q25. No way for it to end up inside.

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What confused me though is this mess of wires that were just shoved inside the NNC. Anyone have ANY idea what this shit is? I see a 220v transformer.

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This is what's left after I removed all of the wire mess. Is this what is supposed to be in there?

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you could use plsatic epoxy and shape it and sand it to remake that side. But then that leaves discoloration. So youd have to sane both sides and repaint so they match. there was q25 parts on ebay but not sure if that part.
 
I think some of that rats nest of wires was for a ghetto rigged VS set up. That's not the official sega VS pcb, but it's using the same mounting kit and wiring.
 
Oh that corner. Yeah I'm pretty sure that was like that before. As for the inside of the NNCs, that mess of wiring was in all of them, but I don't remember how it's supposed to look after
 
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