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After jumper JB3 no more resets but game still plays blind, gonna program P2 in a 27c322, the file have 4MB, It’s needed to change any jumpers in order to work?
 
Changed P2 with a 322 without change any jumper this is the result
 

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Put the original P2 back.

See if you can run the CRC check in Unibios. It is the easiest way to check what program roms are faulty.


EDIT: actually, just dump the original P1 as a 27C800 and SP2 as a 27C322, upload them somewhere and put up a link here.
 
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I've put the original P2 back, still the same, if I put an 27C800 for P1 should I change any jumper?
The problem checking crc with unibos is that I don't know what all banks means, I got one FFS with bank 0 or bank 1 with error but I don't know which eprom is for bank 0 or bank 1, right now I don't remember what bank gives error.
I thought about doing a crc check but probably it would give a error, different sizes between mask and eprom, but I could try flash P1 into a 27C800.
 
I've changed the p1 from a samurai shodown and done the same thing you did (double the p1)
and I pretty sure Unibios checked all the crc as good.
 
I just ran the CRC check for Shock Troopers 2 in Unibios 4.0 under Mame:

shocktr2.png


Rom Region corresponds to 246-p1.p1

shocktr2_b.png


If you split 246-p2.sp2 into four parts

Rom Bank 0 is the 1st quarter

shocktr2_c.png


Rom Bank 1 is the 2nd quarter
Rom Bank 2 is the 3rd quarter
Rom Bank 3 is the 4th quarter
 
Got the cart in my hands, now I remember that when I tried to open the menu to check all I got is a black screen so I cant check crc.
Im gonna flash p1 to a 27c800
 
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Flashed P1 on 27c800 still the same problem from the pic above, game runs but all I can see it’s a blue screen and some colored squares.
 
Can you see any letters when you enter Unibios?
A wild shot but maybe a deffective S1 could be affecting the entire game screen.
 
I can’t seee nothing at all just a black screen, I can’t choose any option at all.
I suspect that P1 isn’t the only problem but I don’t have acknowledgement to point.
S1 should be 27c010 or 27c1000?
I could try change it but if I have to flash a 27c1000 my programmer don’t flash it.
 
So, something with graphics, did you have any donor.
Since S1 have only S-Fix in my opinion i would take a CHA512 from a working NEOCUP 98 and try to move all the C roms to the new card.
By doing this you can exclude the NEO-273 and all the other logic. "The NEO-273 chip is used in cartridges to demultiplex the P bus to C ROM and S ROM addresses (graphics)"
Or you need https://oshwlab.com/ptchnk/neo-doctor to check C roms.ù

S1 is a fast check and should be 27c1000, if you can program 27c1001 you can also do 1000 with and easy DYI adapter.

Game blind ? what about sound ? you can hear sound ? (aka game is starting? )
If a P rom doesn't work at all you should have the grid
 
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So, something with graphics, did you have any donor.
Since S1 have only S-Fix in my opinion i would take a CHA512 from a working NEOCUP 98 and try to move all the C roms to the new card.
By doing this you can exclude the NEO-273 and all the other logic. "The NEO-273 chip is used in cartridges to demultiplex the P bus to C ROM and S ROM addresses (graphics)"
Or you need https://oshwlab.com/ptchnk/neo-doctor to check C roms.ù

S1 is a fast check and should be 27c1000, if you can program 27c1001 you can also do 1000 with and easy DYI adapter.

Game blind ? what about sound ? you can hear sound ? (aka game is starting? )
If a P rom doesn't work at all you should have the grid
The game starts, I can hear the game sound, I'm gonna test with another board to see if I can get the graphics back and narrow the problem.
 
Since the game start, and you do not have any image...
Have you tested another working game in the same setup ? just to exclude any mvs,monitor or any other video signal problem ?
This is not what i exprect from a currupted C game.
This seems something on monitor or on mvs board.
If you're sure that your setup works, and you've seen a game work.
Then move all the roms to another CHA512

Let me know I'm curious.

Here how look a grapics corrupted grapics
This is not the best example but i have no time to find another sorry.

1729169591185.png
 
Since the game start, and you do not have any image...
Have you tested another working game in the same setup ? just to exclude any mvs,monitor or any other video signal problem ?
This is not what i exprect from a currupted C game.
This seems something on monitor or on mvs board.
If you're sure that your setup works, and you've seen a game work.
Then move all the roms to another CHA512

Let me know I'm curious.

Here how look a grapics corrupted grapics
This is not the best example but i have no time to find another sorry.

1729169591185.png
Hi there, The is some kind of image, but its unplayable, tested another cartridges and work flawless, not a monitor or mvs problem.
I1ve posted a image of how the game runs, just block of solid colors and sound, I didn't have time to work on cart, probably only next week, I've another shock troopers to change board to test.
As soon as I test i give a feedback.
 
Hi there, The is some kind of image, but its unplayable, tested another cartridges and work flawless, not a monitor or mvs problem.
I1ve posted a image of how the game runs, just block of solid colors and sound, I didn't have time to work on cart, probably only next week, I've another shock troopers to change board to test.
As soon as I test i give a feedback.
man, shock troppers is an expensive game that you can repair, just buy for 15€ neo cup 98 😜
also post a picture in hi-res of the game board, front and retro.
I'm curius to see the neo273 chip on cha board.

I recently had a problem with this component due to the flux dissolving years old gunk and getting stuck between the contacts of the neo-273 in my Double Dragon
 
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man, shock troppers is an expensive game that you can repair, just buy for 15€ neo cup 98 😜
also post a picture in hi-res of the game board, front and retro.
I'm curius to see the neo273 chip on cha board.

I recently had a problem with this component due to the flux dissolving years old gunk and getting stuck between the contacts of the neo-273 in my Double Dragon
I've at least 100 cartridges, but I don't think that I have a NGC'98 what I 've mostly is KOF, but probably I have one cha pcb that suits like KOF' 97.
But this week I can't change all mask roms to another board, I got two Sega cpus to work on, one from ID4 and another from Starship Troopers, and I have to finish today cuz tomorrow I need to put them back and thursday I have a trip and I come back only monday.
At least I can take the photos and post here later.
 
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