XtraSmiley
Legendary
Your guess is as good as mine! I'm hoping Florida, but it could be Texas, or St Louis, or DC!
- Thread starter XeD
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Shipping to Australia was $600 USD, plus the government would tax a further 10% on everything (including the shipping cost), plus there'd most likely be some fumigation fees and port clearance fees.
I'd probably be looking at a solid $1800-2000 gamble. Reckon I'd have better luck at the casino if I had the money, or even gambled for that matter. I don't have the room really, it was one of those spontaneous impulisive brain farts to buy something which would have put myself in debt... I guess that's part of the hobby isn't it
It absolutely is.
The listing said $350 to ship up top for some reason, but then said $550 in the description, so it wasn't the same price as the group buy for US folks anyway. Just to fix my earlier mistake.
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People with non functional cab send me a pm with a topic with your name and refund.
Give me a breakdown of your cost so far.
People with non functional cab send me a pm with a topic with your name and refund.
Give me a breakdown of your cost so far.
Communication with Yaton has been long and slow. He said he would refund some money back, but have yet to give me an amount. I have given him the updated list as of late. Montreal order is not looking good, and I have yet to fully test all of mine. These are the option I am giving to people, You can decide what you want to do. This has been a learning experience to all and defiantly going to change how I do things.
- Working out the numbers I can give up to 88.48 USD per cab depending on fault (- what every fee paypal will charge me) to E2, Windy, and Domy. NNC for the most part in the US shipment any seem good. The Q25, @rewrite you said you would have paid more so your fine right
but seriously if anything major come up, let me know. This will be more for psu, chassis, and I/O. If Yaton does give me some kind of refund, don't hold your breath on this. I will like to pay myself back some and will divvy the rest. I still owe him some money so this is were some of this is coming from the rest is from a few cabs. I am still waiting for some balance to be paid off so refunds wont be going out until those are paid - Now if we want to have some fun with this I was going to raffle off a partial international mushihime-sama black label (missing the cardboard insert for the pcb, I think one of the plastic bag, and maybe one of the paper?) to the US and Vancouver E2, Windy, Domy, and Q25 people. Sorry NNC you will have an option to buy in. This all will depend on who want refunds and if its worth it for me. I'm not going to do it if only 10 people/cab want in I rather just pay out. The 3 people who bought E2 from me so far will also get a number in this. I am taking myself out of this raffle. This will leave me 4 extra number for 3 Windy and 1 Q25. I'm thinking 50.00 if you want 1 of the extra number.
- This goes back to Yaton. He said he will send replacement parts, if he has them. If you want to go with this option let me know. I'm expecting a long lead time on this as he is moving shop and I'm sure the other container buyers are just flooding his email.
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No cash refund needed for me for:
EDIT: FYI, if caps fix the I/O or chassis on the Windy II, no need for any refund. Also, Egret II had a faulty PSU. But I don't need any compensation for that either. And thanks again XeD. You did us a huge solid.
- Egret II
- Sega NNC
- Windy II
- I/O board
- Will try to recap this to get it going
- Possibly chassis
- Will take a stab at capping it to see if it resolves the problem
- I/O board
EDIT: FYI, if caps fix the I/O or chassis on the Windy II, no need for any refund. Also, Egret II had a faulty PSU. But I don't need any compensation for that either. And thanks again XeD. You did us a huge solid.
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And you said all the cabs were tested and working, didn't you?
I'm going to be one of those people who "won't be satisfied" with 2 of 3 answers. I (like just about everyone else) was sold a "tested working" cabinet. I expect that I will have a working cabinet at the end of it. Not $88, not an entry ticket in a raffle for an item, not a full refund, not a replacement cab, not compensated for my troubles, I only expect a working cabinet. Nothing more, nothing less. Whether that's repair costs covered or working replacement parts sent. Because that's what I paid for. It's what I was sold.
In good faith I have done my best to repair 4/5 of the cabinets I picked up in this deal, and with the help of @radiantsvgun 2 of those are up and running at zero cost to you (even though it was your responsibility as the seller, not mine or radiant's). Like radiant I have literally given away my own spare parts in order to get another member's cab up and running (which again, ultimately saved you money). Sure, it didn't fully solve the problem, the Windy PSU is still dead, but now it's only the PSU instead of the PSU AND the monitor that you have to deal with.
I could have just plugged them in and when they didn't turn on say "So what are you going to do about it?" and done nothing more. Or contacted PayPal directly and never said anything to you at all. Instead, in good faith, I put in my time and parts because I was thankful that you said you were going to do the right thing and ensure everything was dealt with "in the new year". So I figured I'd meet you halfway and see if I could minimize your list of issues to take care of.
I agree with your earlier statement that you got in over your head. That sucks. I feel for you. But ultimately that's not the buyers' fault. You sold them "tested and working" cabs, and that's what they should end up with.
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90sCyberThriller
Student
I'm still waiting for my Windy II but to be honest I was expecting a project cab in the first place. These cabs sat in a warehouse for who-knows-how-long in China. I've never even seen a windy II for sale in the US and if I did I would expect somebody to be asking 1600 to $2,000 at least for one. So 1000 for a project cab working or not I don't think it's that big of a deal for me. Thank you for the opportunity to get my dream cab.
If yaton is willing to offer any partial refunds for anything I would take that opportunity but I'm not going to hold XeD responsible if I have issues. I think a lot of people put their expectations too high in this order and that is a common mistake in most group orders.
If yaton is willing to offer any partial refunds for anything I would take that opportunity but I'm not going to hold XeD responsible if I have issues. I think a lot of people put their expectations too high in this order and that is a common mistake in most group orders.
Hey, a reasonable thought for a change!
I can't speak for everyone obviously, but I expected a project cab that works, since I was told I was being sold a project cab that works.
Expected rust, cracked plastics, poorly covered up paint issues, mold, broken buttons/sticks, etc. But also expected it to be working, because that's how it was described.
Hedonism Bot 2.0
Grand Master
I was expecting a project too, and rust ,mold , mildew, not a problem- I can roll up my sleeves and get in there. But had I known the monitors weren’t working I would have more than likely stayed away.
Toshiba chassis are a bitch to repair, if they can be repaired. Sharp has been trying to fix one of my NNC Chassis over 3 months now.
Toshiba chassis are a bitch to repair, if they can be repaired. Sharp has been trying to fix one of my NNC Chassis over 3 months now.
BanishingFlatsAC
Champion
I have no personal dog in this fight other then two of my buddies and several other users whom I consider good folks are involved in this.
IMO, this entire cab order has been off since day one. It should have been disclosed from day one that Yaton was the "man behind the curtain" with this whole buy. Instead folks had to piece together pictures like Encyclopedia Brown in order to solve that mystery. I think the average person would have still been in, but those of us in this hobby for a decent amount of year might have held off.
Secondly, when one purchased a project can, you often know what you're getting into. Body work, repro art, maybe a PSU swap. But for these to be listed as "tested working" is a fucking joke. These thing we're not even plugged in. I've seen one Windy that's actually working so far...one. As I stated before, "tested working" is a term that Yaton doesn't quite seem to grasp the concept of. Yet another reason why this should have been disclosed.
Third, Xed, you need to step up to the plate. I understand you have some issues going on with sick family members, but this issue needs to be addressed. I don't know the behind the scenes details of this, but if Yaton was quick to respond and is now playing hard to pin down....you got fucked dude. Unfortunately, this is not the first time this has happened. There have been several other sellers who have been fucked over by Chinese wholesellers in the past, so this is nothing new. What happened however is they got porked by not being transparent, something I advise you become quickly.
$88 isn't going to cut it. Yaton needs to either supply replacement "actual working" parts quickly or at least compensate folks for the actual dollar value of the repair. A project canlb is a project cab, these were not sold as project cabs....fuck at one point they were listed as NOS...lol.
The burden of this is going to fall on you Xed. I know you're new to these container buys, but this is unfortunately a side effect to being a middle man for a shady seller. You had to have know this was a possibility.
IMO, this entire cab order has been off since day one. It should have been disclosed from day one that Yaton was the "man behind the curtain" with this whole buy. Instead folks had to piece together pictures like Encyclopedia Brown in order to solve that mystery. I think the average person would have still been in, but those of us in this hobby for a decent amount of year might have held off.
Secondly, when one purchased a project can, you often know what you're getting into. Body work, repro art, maybe a PSU swap. But for these to be listed as "tested working" is a fucking joke. These thing we're not even plugged in. I've seen one Windy that's actually working so far...one. As I stated before, "tested working" is a term that Yaton doesn't quite seem to grasp the concept of. Yet another reason why this should have been disclosed.
Third, Xed, you need to step up to the plate. I understand you have some issues going on with sick family members, but this issue needs to be addressed. I don't know the behind the scenes details of this, but if Yaton was quick to respond and is now playing hard to pin down....you got fucked dude. Unfortunately, this is not the first time this has happened. There have been several other sellers who have been fucked over by Chinese wholesellers in the past, so this is nothing new. What happened however is they got porked by not being transparent, something I advise you become quickly.
$88 isn't going to cut it. Yaton needs to either supply replacement "actual working" parts quickly or at least compensate folks for the actual dollar value of the repair. A project canlb is a project cab, these were not sold as project cabs....fuck at one point they were listed as NOS...lol.
The burden of this is going to fall on you Xed. I know you're new to these container buys, but this is unfortunately a side effect to being a middle man for a shady seller. You had to have know this was a possibility.
BanishingFlatsAC
Champion
Also, I know I'm a big mouth, but where were these folks with knowledge of the Windy Chassis during this group buy? I've seen several people come out of the woodwork during the past few weeks saying these chassis are "non repairable". Why wasn't this knowledge passed on to folks during the group buy? I thought we were a "community"?
When someone advertises something as working. It should be working. These cabinets should have been electrically working for their price, period. Instead, Yaton halfassed testing the majority of the cabs on every container, US, UK, CAN. Those actually aren't high expectations for what was advertised by him. Ppl knew there were going to be cosmetic issues and overall filthiness. Even after all the mayhem, ppl regardless of their opinion, came here and helped these folks. But, Yaton needs to learn a lesson. Advertise truthfully and adjust pricing accordingly. Funny how he does it with eBay, but not on huge bulk containers.
My experience all these years in group buys, is the middle man having higher expectations and getting in over their head. Nothing is easy in this process, why so few provide it.
The common mistake is ppl not doing the right thing or making things right in the end.
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electricgrave
Beginner
How is it that group buys like these are usually done by the inexperienced?
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I share the exact same opinion expressed by rewrite.
I got a Windy 2 from the Montreal container. All Windy 2 had serious issues. Here are the issues that mine seems to have :
- Faulty I/O, no sound (huge buzz in the speakers), no image.
- Faulty Monitor, vertical collapse as soon as it powers on and shut itself off after 5 seconds.
- Joysticks and all buttons must be change (But that, I was expecting to change all of them)
Just trying to keep things up to date. I have the following cab issues:
rewrite
Domy - Chassis
E2 - PSU
acblunden2
Windy - Chassis and I/O
E2 - PSU
8bitforlife
Windy - PSU
E2 - PSU
Kuze
Windy - Chassis
hatsunemike
E2 - PSU
who else received non working cab and who is still waiting to receive.
rewrite
Domy - Chassis
E2 - PSU
acblunden2
Windy - Chassis and I/O
E2 - PSU
8bitforlife
Windy - PSU
E2 - PSU
Kuze
Windy - Chassis
hatsunemike
E2 - PSU
who else received non working cab and who is still waiting to receive.
I haven't receive my two cabs yet. I have a truck picking up in Montreal on Monday, I should receive Tuesday. Guillaume said he's testing them first so finger crossed they get to me ok in decent shape.
