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A Freeware Taito TypeX2 Multigame.

Hi all, question for you. I just got a TTX2 today with the multi, trying to use it in my Blast City.

Picture is fine, but controls don't work at all. It passes the I/O check at boot up just fine, though, but then nothing works. All buttons and directions on 1p and 2p do nothing.

Using the Sega Jamma to JVS IO. I haven't used the I/O before, but it is properly passing picture through the Jamma edge, so I'm assuming it's working.

Any ideas?

Edit: I don't know exactly why, but it seems to be working now. Fingers crossed!
 
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streetfighterken said:
After chasing gremlins for the last few weeks with a new multi install, I'll back up this theory about the X2 not liking certain hard disks. I have another X2 multi with a WD disk from 2010 that works, so I ordered an identical one from ebay. Worked first time. So from my experience it didn't like Kingston, Hitachi, and a WD from 2018.
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Just to add to this, I just had the same thing. Chasing an issue with "Operating system not found" error.

Tried my trusted WD green SSDs (120Gb & 240Gb) but no joy with any of these. They are new ish ones from 2022-2023 ish. Tried again with an old Corsair one from 10 years ago. Worked first time. Interesting that somethings altered with newer SSDs. Hope this helps info wise etc.

Also, the v2 image is over 60gb in size, which is a little tricky if wanting to use an old SSD from 10 years ago. the C drive is 50Gb in size but hardly anything is used on there, so i used Macrium Reflect to resize the partitions and worked nice!! Back to within a 60gb hard drive. I have the image I can share if its useful no worries. :)

Also one other question, is there a doc somewhere describing what to options you can put in the games config.ini file and is it possible to run the games without the I/o board error for testing/pc repair purposes etc?? some flag to set somewhere maybe??
 
Need some advice,

Any specific requirements for the type of monitor and resolution in use? Ie can you run these computers with the multihd on the bench with any old monitor and adapter leads if you only have a vga monitor etc.

I just cannot get any game to run here. Super Street Fighter 4 set to autorun loads and says 'Starting SSF4' then goes to black screen and then back to main menu. Using the v2 images from the all in one download and also tried the game images from achieve.org. Nothing seems to work. Using a Sega JVS board to, which is detected and works ok.

2gb ram in it and a new motherboard..

(also, the original hard drive loads and says error 901 when dongle plugged in and error 900 when unplugged. New motherboard was needed to resolve a continuous reboot problem at load)
 
mypinballs said:
Also one other question, is there a doc somewhere describing what to options you can put in the games config.ini file and is it possible to run the games without the I/o board error for testing/pc repair purposes etc?? some flag to set somewhere maybe??
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Unfortunately no, working JVS is needed to boot. You could setup a JVS emulator so you don't need the I/O hooked up, but I'm not sure I really see the use case for this scenario.

mypinballs said:
Any specific requirements for the type of monitor and resolution in use? Ie can you run these computers with the multihd on the bench with any old monitor and adapter leads if you only have a vga monitor etc.
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No, all that stuff is patched out I think except for Battle Fantasia and Darius Burst which have EDID checks. Burst doesn't even come in the disk images floating around FWIW.

mypinballs said:
I just cannot get any game to run here. Super Street Fighter 4 set to autorun loads and says 'Starting SSF4' then goes to black screen and then back to main menu. Using the v2 images from the all in one download and also tried the game images from achieve.org. Nothing seems to work. Using a Sega JVS board to, which is detected and works ok.
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That makes me think there's an issue with JVS. Try a different cable.

I'm assuming because you were able to configure autorun that you are able to access the multi menu?

mypinballs said:
(also, the original hard drive loads and says error 901 when dongle plugged in and error 900 when unplugged. New motherboard was needed to resolve a continuous reboot problem at load)
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In my experience 901 with a dongle plugged in means either the dongle is bad, or the USB port/controller is bad, or the TPM is bad.
 
kazuo said:
That makes me think there's an issue with JVS. Try a different cable.

I'm assuming because you were able to configure autorun that you are able to access the multi menu?
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Thanks for the replies on all my questions. Sorry to ask alot, just wanting to fix this game for my customer as he is an operator so its good to keep games out there in the wild if we can.

I have tried 2 different jvs boards but they are both sega ones. Both work as in are detected correctly and inputs work to change the menu options etc. I am abit stumped as it feels like there is some issue with the resolution maybe, but there's no debug info that i can see. tried the dip switch 2 setting on both aswell, no cigar..
 
Resolution wouldn't be an issue here. All of these games run at 480p (worst case letterboxed on 4:3 displays) or 720p. My guess is either the image wasn't written correctly, someone altered the configuration, or you need to try another USB cable. I hate to be annoying about the cable, but I've read in the past about people having random JVS errors and it is because they were using a bunk cable.

Out of curiosity, do you know which model number of Type X2 these are? It should be printed on one of the stickers just to the right of where the HDD plate mounts.
 
kazuo said:
Resolution wouldn't be an issue here. All of these games run at 480p (worst case letterboxed on 4:3 displays) or 720p. My guess is either the image wasn't written correctly, someone altered the configuration, or you need to try another USB cable. I hate to be annoying about the cable, but I've read in the past about people having random JVS errors and it is because they were using a bunk cable.

Out of curiosity, do you know which model number of Type X2 these are? It should be printed on one of the stickers just to the right of where the HDD plate mounts.
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So a bad jvs board/connection causes a blank screen after loading? I am getting the original taito jvs board from the game sent so maybe that will work better? The jvs boards i tested do work with inputs and are detected though..

Original stickers are:

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The motherboard was replaced because it would boot cycle continuously. thats now fixed. The rev of the motherboard is an earlier one now. rev00b instead of rev01b. not sure if that makes any difference

There's 2gb ram in it now to. And i've tried various other configs above 512mb to
 
mypinballs said:
So a bad jvs board/connection causes a blank screen after loading? I am getting the original taito jvs board from the game sent so maybe that will work better? The jvs boards i tested do work with inputs and are detected though
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It's weird that the multi won't work but the real game will AND that you can get into the multi menu. Usually it'll just fail outright so this really makes me suspect it's the cable, not the JVS boards. There's probably a thread or two you can find on here where someone had this problem. But it could also be the image is bad.

To be clear, you're saying NONE of the games on the multi work? Did you get the image with the games, or did you add the games yourself? Was the drive modified in some way?
 
rtw said:
@mypinballs would it be possible for you to dump that HDD image and share it ? I can make a version for you which does not need the dongle ?

Simplest tool to dump it is to use: https://hddguru.com/software/HDD-Raw-Copy-Tool/

And save the image as a .imgc file which is a compressed lossless format.
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Yep i can do this no worries. I can do it using std dd unix tools or macrium reflect or the tool you mention. no bother

Give me a couple of days.

A stock version that ignores the dongle would be perfect :)
 
kazuo said:
It's weird that the multi won't work but the real game will AND that you can get into the multi menu. Usually it'll just fail outright so this really makes me suspect it's the cable, not the JVS boards. There's probably a thread or two you can find on here where someone had this problem. But it could also be the image is bad.

To be clear, you're saying NONE of the games on the multi work? Did you get the image with the games, or did you add the games yourself? Was the drive modified in some way?
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Thanks for the thoughts and advice. always appreciated. I will try another usb lead but these leads are new and i use them for other projects all the time. Only tried the ssf4 games and space invaders so far. Nothing loads, just black screen. I only have an older 60gb ssd drive that will work, so i used the no games image (from post 1) and copied the games i wanted over from the full game image. I did resize some of the partitions to fit a 60gb drive, so maybe this is a factor??. The issue earlier was that i can't get modern 240gb or 120gb western digital ssd drives to load at all . They just say 'no system found'. Any other modern large 240gb ssds that are confirmed to work ok?

Also is a working dongle still needed on the multi hd setups?
 
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rtw said:
His original game with dongle does not work either...
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I guess I got mixed up on this point. That said, shouldn't matter since the multi doesn't care if you have a working dongle or not (as I am sure you know). I myself used to have a TTX2 that refused to boot some games with dongles, but worked perfectly fine with the multi.

Honestly, I'm out of ideas at this point.
 
kazuo said:
Unfortunately no, working JVS is needed to boot. You could setup a JVS emulator so you don't need the I/O hooked up, but I'm not sure I really see the use case for this scenario.



No, all that stuff is patched out I think except for Battle Fantasia and Darius Burst which have EDID checks. Burst doesn't even come in the disk images floating around FWIW.



That makes me think there's an issue with JVS. Try a different cable.

I'm assuming because you were able to configure autorun that you are able to access the multi menu?



In my experience 901 with a dongle plugged in means either the dongle is bad, or the USB port/controller is bad, or the TPM is bad.
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The multi doesn't patch anything. Unless you enable "Game Patches" but that only affects Nesica games for things like network unlocks and hiding the "Nesica Offline" messages.
 
@mypinballs graciously supplied me with an image of his disk with
CAPCOM SSF4 EXP, Ver.1.0 (STANDALONE) so I could take a look.

While writing a launcher for it I came across something interesting.

This is the only SSF4 we have which is standalone i.e. two
humans can play against one another on the same machine.

Even if it is marked as EXP its really destined for :

South East Asia countries, the Oceanian countries and South Korea only.

Why don't we have a European or USA version dumped ?

Also why don't we have a standalone version for the original SF4 ?

The version we have is destined for:

Republic of Korea, ROC, Republic of the Phillipines, Australia, New Zealand and Singapore

This is also a non standalone version.

The other Ver.1.0 (NESYS) and Ver.1.3 (NESYS) both require a master/slave
network setup in order for two humans to play against one another.

Please can you all check your archives and disks to see if we have any undumped versions ?
 
rtw said:
Please can you all check your archives and disks to see if we have any undumped versions ?
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does this help? I can't seem to find the !@# HD so I'm hoping you tell me "no we have these thank you" ?
 

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