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Process of fixing necked tube is far too involved and costly for something as common as ms9. Only really makes sense for very rare vintage tubes for restoration. Just have to replace it.

edit: here you see process of involve.
 
I gotta ask, what is the sensitive material at this shipping company? Is it just shipping containers filled with real dolls?
My buddy's company designs and produces packaging for some of the biggest companies in the world. So if anything was in prototype phase or pre-production, would be bad if their products that haven't hit the street yet show up on an internet forum. Some serious NDA's would be violated. They also produce corporate specialty items for whatever commemorative events such companies have.
So one of the E2s has a busted illumination panel, whos going to end up with that?
I was talking to Cereth and a faithful repoduction of that panel has been in the works for a while. Takes access to lots of specialty tools and skills to do repro such a thing. It just so happens my buddy has such resources and professional artists at his disposal who may be able to move the effort along. I'll talk to him about it when he gets back next month.
Okay..... I like to make everyone happy, but that is never going to happen. Now that you have seen pics and comments about the cab from people more knowledge then I. I'm going to do the following. This only affect mostly to the people in the US with E2 that have yet to pick up their cab.

1. The cab are going to be sold as is, except for in the case of non working psu or chassis
- In this case I will refund a portion for a generic psu of chassis repair

2. Anyone who don't like the looks or don't want to gamble on the cab. I will give you a full refund of your purchase and will pass it on to the next interested person. I apologize for wasting your time.
- Now if you paid me in Canadian your shit out of luck and will lose out on the 3% paypay charge for the conversion.

3. For those that picked up already. I will be talking to a few people to find out what is a fair refund. Again sorry for wasting your time

Now if someone drop out I will take the crack translite out of circulation, unless someone want it.

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Also note some of the E2 have repro panel. Have yet to confirm if it's just the overlay or the whole panel
  1. If you were in the group buy and made the deposit to XeD
  2. You drew the short straw with the E2's and are allocated the one with the busted illuminated panel
  3. And regardless if you settled for a fair refund with XeD
If my buddy is able to repro that panel, I'll make sure you get one. Likely, the only additional cost to you is shipping. I say this without any promises as I am not sure if my buddy can repro it. But with him being on vacation till next month, and the decision if you will pass on that E2 or not needing to be made sooner then that, I am stating this now.

I have no skin in this. I just think that XeD did us all a huge solid and would like to pay it forward.
 
Process of fixing necked tube is far too involved and costly for something as common as ms9. Only really makes sense for very rare vintage tubes for restoration. Just have to replace it.

edit: here you see process of involve.
Man, wish those guys were still in operation. I think they were the last US based shop doing this.
 
. On the topic of necking tubes, to the people getting windy cabs be extremely cautious. You will not be rotating this monitor often. If you want to do it plan on keeping it that way for a very long time. there is no frame around the tube
The Windy doesn't have frame surrounding the tube but the tube mount does have handles making the removal process easy.
 
Took me a good 20 minutes to pull out the rat's nest out of the NNC. Everything in there is loose. But looks like I have it down to the bare JVS parts.

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About to fire up my 1st ever JVS cab. Wish me luck!
 

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good luck. What does your coin counter read?
 
seriously though you should keep all that someone might need extras.
 
Tough to compensate a near irreplaceable $600-$800 part.
That was for a NOS one iirc. Anyone paying that much for a used yellowed one is an idiot. Vast majority of them have yellowing simply due to the fluorescent lighting behind them cooking them.
 
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good luck. What does your coin counter read?
Auspiciously low.

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If put out some conservative projections out there and say, this cab got X many coins per day, breaks out to this:
  • 100 coins/day = 17 days on site
  • 50 coins/day = 35 days on site
  • 10 coins/day = 174 days on site.
Now that doesn't count hours the machine was on during those days on site, but I would say this is very auspicious. When the EC guys get theirs, chime on what your counters read. Lowest count wins all the spare Yen in my cabs.

Here are some pics:

No burn to speak of!
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Looks good from here.
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And here.
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Here too.
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Not so much here though. I'll live.
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Pane shot!
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Ok, now for the disappointing stuff level-setting stuff. I had been doing my homework on these cabs and was hoping for the Toshiba Pure Flat monitor and chassis. Instead, I got the Sanwa PFX (chassis no. KW0606A) with a A68LTF356x Toshiba Pure Flat tube:

Notice how the chassis looks NOS, but there is some dirt on the VGA connector? Weird. Yaton is known to swap out stuff out of his cabs to get max equity on his stuff. And there are plenty of Toshiba chassis on his eBay page.
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None of this mattered though once I turned on the monitor and degaussed it.

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Wow! I was floored by the image. @300wins and I have been messaging about picking up his remote board for the Toshiba PF. But I didn't get such a chassis. I can't imagine how much better this tube would look if it had a Toshiba PF chassis. 300wins tells me the Toshiba beats the Sanwa in that it handles sync better if used with different boards. I believe him. But as of right now, it would take a compelling reason for me to invest another $200 into getting the Toshiba PF chassis and the remote board. Hopefully, I can investigate with 300wins if a chassis swap will work on this tube. He and I are both in San Jose. So if it doesn't get that far, at least I can see what a Toshiba PF chassis looks like in action.


I haven't yet seen this at 15khz. I have to sort through the rats nest and figure out wiring first. But man, if 15khz looks anything like 31khz............man, fuck the Egret II. I should have picked up two NNC's.
I did a spit take.
The rat's nest was just tossed in there. Wasn't wired to anything. But taking it out was akin to Alexander the Great's challenge of the Gordian Knot! I didn't want to rip something out that I shouldn't have so it took me 20 minutes plus this is my first experience with a JVS cab.

So anyone in this buy that has never experienced this cab before, just look for the yellow, white, brown cables, and VGA cables that come off the sound amp. Free those out and the nest comes right out. Looks like the nest has some JVS-to-JAMMA stuff. I totally dunno if that is standard with a NNC and it will be a while before I can figure out the wiring. But it was all loose and pulled out after some sorting.
Tough to compensate a near irreplaceable $600-$800 part.
That was for a NOS one iirc. Anyone paying that much for a used yellowed one is an idiot. Vast majority of them have yellowing simply due to the fluorescent lighting behind them cooking them.
.........@jugu is actually a good dude.
 
I haven't yet seen this at 15khz. I have to sort through the rats nest and figure out wiring first. But man, if 15khz looks anything like 31khz............man, fuck the Egret II. I should have picked up two NNC's.
The NNC in 15khz blows all my other cabinets out of the water in every aspect. Sega Astro, blast, American cabinet w/ WG monitor, they just can't even compare to the NNC. The only problem with the NNC is it's awkward looking body style.
 
Do you know if you have the Toshiba PF chassis or the Sanwa @BlinG?

Damnit, seems my remote board is jacked. Only changs values down, not up. Hope a solder reflow fixes it.
 
Looking good @acblunden2. of my NNC I think my lowest is the the 30s or 60s and my highest is in the 3k. I don't really understand that rat nest because it took them like 3 days to convert them back to 110V..... I guess they took long coffee breaks haha
 
I have a Toshiba chassis. I’ve never seen a Sanwa pfx in person, but I’ve heard nothing but good things about their picture quality. I strongly believe if you were to put the two monitors side by side though, the difference would be minimal
 
Tough to compensate a near irreplaceable $600-$800 part.
That was for a NOS one iirc. Anyone paying that much for a used yellowed one is an idiot. Vast majority of them have yellowing simply due to the fluorescent lighting behind them cooking them.
Yeah, the $800 one was NOS. I said that in a follow up post.
 
I haven't yet seen this at 15khz. I have to sort through the rats nest and figure out wiring first. But man, if 15khz looks anything like 31khz............man, fuck the Egret II. I should have picked up two NNC's.
The NNC in 15khz blows all my other cabinets out of the water in every aspect. Sega Astro, blast, American cabinet w/ WG monitor, they just can't even compare to the NNC. The only problem with the NNC is it's awkward looking body style.
Same here, love the Toshi PF in 15K, even next to a MS9 :thumbsup:
 
I have a Toshiba chassis. I’ve never seen a Sanwa pfx in person, but I’ve heard nothing but good things about their picture quality. I strongly believe if you were to put the two monitors side by side though, the difference would be minimal
I think you are right. Can't imagine how much better this can look. 300wins tells me the difference is the Sanwa is temperamental at 15khz with different sync standards from various boards. He says both have excellent image quality. He has both.

300wins is a really cool kat too. Helped me a ton in the past few days answering my questions.
Looking good @acblunden2. of my NNC I think my lowest is the the 30s or 60s and my highest is in the 3k.
Man, when they told you NOS originally, I think they meant the NNC's. The barn-yard find, the diamond in the rough, the overlooked masterpiece that was won at minimum bid in the auction within this group buy was the NNC's. If you were one of the 9 that got one of the NNC's, you lucked out. 1,700 coins in mine. Your highest in the 3,000 range. These can't get any newer. Someone should buy all the rest of Yaton's NNC's.
I don't really understand that rat nest because it took them like 3 days to convert them back to 110V..... I guess they took long coffee breaks haha
Blah, I think most of it was the 220v step-down AC wiring. I think those things can be tossed out. I'll figure out the JVS-to-JAMMA stuff eventually. But the value in it for me isn't high since I got a 15khz Egret II out of all of this.

I'll go to my buddy's business on Thursday to test out the E2 and Windy II and get you guys the low down then.
 
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