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Hatsune Mike said:
I'm 99% sure you can use an MS9-29 chassis on an E31s tube/yoke combination. If you primarily will be playing JAMMA boards, that may be a good option. I do not have a lot of good things to say about the Rodotron 666A / Wei-Ya / Whatever Makvision tried to call it / etc.
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I'd give that a try then if it were me.

No personal experience with Rodotron 666A / Wei-Ya here, but grantspain on AO said they're easy to repair at least.
 
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radiantsvgun said:
Were these just a drop in?
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Physically, yes (I have 3 in my storage, alongside 8bit's Windy). Take the tube and chassis off of the frame, drop in.
Have to change some connectors around for it to work though.
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I took a gamble on a Net city chassis, which is supposed to be 15/24/31 auto like the blast. When it gets here I'll give it a try.
 
Rg111 said:
Thamiel said:
basically the arcade operator who said he could do it just took my money, tried a few times and then started ducking my calls.
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What's the guy's name so we can avoid him?
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Don't think he operates anymore, just a small guy here in Australia.
radiantsvgun said:
Thamiel said:
I wasn't part of the group buy but I've been dealing with a pair of Windy IIs for years. Basically the chassis are total pricks to deal with, no one wants to repair them. I'm out about 600 trying to get the originals repaired before I just sent them to Jomac for parts, basically the arcade operator who said he could do it just took my money, tried a few times and then started ducking my calls.

In the the end I replaced them with Nanao 2934s and just lived with 31khz only.
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Were these just a drop in?
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Yep, just had to change a couple of connectors. Problem is the anode cable is shorter than the stock Windy chassis so I've still gotta figure out how to secure it properly.
 
@Thamiel Thanks a lot, hope the chassis is fixable but good to know there are options if it isn't. What is the best way to contact Jomac, I want to ask him a few questions about this chassis.
 
radiantsvgun said:
@Thamiel Thanks a lot, hope the chassis is fixable but good to know there are options if it isn't. What is the best way to contact Jomac, I want to ask him a few questions about this chassis.
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Think there's a phone number on the website, calling is usually the best bet. He dosnt repair these though, too much of a headache for him.
 
Here's the good news out of that broken translite:
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Hoping this brings us one step closer to making replacements.
 
Cereth said:
Here's the good news out of that broken translite:
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Unfortunately, I got the cab with the broken translite. So I sacrificed it to the greater good. I hope all us E2 owners can benefit from this! :thumbsup:

Major thanks to Cereth for his work last night!
 
Thamiel said:
radiantsvgun said:
@Thamiel Thanks a lot, hope the chassis is fixable but good to know there are options if it isn't. What is the best way to contact Jomac, I want to ask him a few questions about this chassis.
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Think there's a phone number on the website, calling is usually the best bet. He dosnt repair these though, too much of a headache for him.
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He doesn't take emails from outside AUS, dang. Back to square one.

One of the AO users told me to check the grounds, as that is one of the causes for the toshiba to go into protection mode. I did find where the ground was cut when the transformer was removed. I used some shrink tubing and my nublet solder skills to reconnect it. Until sharp repairs the chassis, I have been thinking of putting the sanwa PFX in for the time being. However, since the tube is semi flat and the PFX is fully flat, won't there be a gap in the bezel?

Edit: other than the monitor, the last thing to do is pull the psu and change the fan. It makes a grinding noise on startup, I assume its at the end of its life. If I can get it out, I'll also see about making a cap list.

https://imgur.com/a/iPAQT3U
 
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yes there would. I am envious of your pfx. I didn't have the money at the time the guy was selling all his. I would kill for one.
 
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Well, I got my cabs. Pictured above is 19 Usui Trading MAS-25s and three Irem Madonnas. One MAS I had unloaded beforehand.

I like acblunden2's way of writing everything in bullet point, so I'll follow suit.

Good stuff:
  • Cabs are for the most part original. All the difficult to source parts are there. I was sure some doors would be missing, but thankfully that's not the case. None of the MAS cabs had control panels, which I knew before hand. There's two or three that are missing the upper control panel surround, but I should be able to get those and the CPs fabricated pretty easily. One of the cabs is missing a plastic bezel and the wooden support for it, two are missing the glass front screen.
  • Monitors are all original, which is great. I bought these cabs untested, so I was somewhat worried that on parts that have some value Yaton might try to do the ol' switcheroo. However, all the grime inside is pretty telling and it's obvious they haven't been meddled with. 18 of the MAS cabs have Nanaos, two have Toei, all three Madonnas are Nanao. They're all 25 inch (59cm), which is great.
  • All cabs have working castor wheels, thank god.
  • All locks are in place. Maybe one or two are missing. I have one key for the MAS, none for the Madonna. I have a tubular key lock pick on the way.

Bad stuff:
  • Right out of the gate, this container order didn't go out too well:

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    See where it says 'FOB'? FOB is shorthand for Free On Board. That means that after the container is put on board of the ship, all liability is assumed by the buyer, ie. me. I would handle all the work involved including negotiating with the receiving port, customs and transit to the final destination. Well, it wasn't sent FOB. Unbeknownst to me a freight forwarding agent was assigned for it here in Finland, which means I'm only the receiver of the goods. The agent handles everything. Compared to the last container I received I paid 275 euros more in fees. Not only is it the extra cost, but communicating with the agent was terrible. Between December 21st and January 2nd I had no idea where the container was as they didn't answer emails or phone calls. This for a container that was originally supposed to come on the 24th.
  • Yaton's crew are terrible at loading containers. See how there's space at the the front of the container? Three 30cm long, 2cm thick pieces of wood had been hammered down with two nails each to hold all three rows of cabs in place. That's it, nothing else. Literally kicked them off. We started unloading these, three cabs at a time. Got to the far end and did a double take. Three of the cabs that were first loaded in were laying on their sides and another three were put on top of them.

    ?(

    Anyone who has half a brain will know that if you have an object that is twice as tall as it is wide and deep, two of them will take the same amount of floor space vertical as they would horizontal:

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    Proven in ASCII!

    OK, admittedly these aren't twice as tall, but there was space at the front!!

    The problem with laying them down like that is that the next three cabs were put upright. An upright cab that is not strapped down, pressed against the front glass of one of the cabs laying down. Can you guess where this is heading?

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    A million shards of glass. I spent the first two hours tearing down this cab and fishing the last piece of glass from inside. I guess I'm lucky it was just the one glass.

    Some of the front doors and mounting boards were left inside the cabs to rattle around. I have no idea why. It's like a five second job to put them in place. I'm surprised we didn't snap a monitor neck when we unloaded the cabs. The monitors on the MAS are frameless and the necks are completely exposed. Lucky again? Well, my luck is about to run out...
  • The cabs are really, really rusty. Like really bad. Here's some choice pics:

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    Every panel will need to be media blasted.

    Naturally, where there's rust on metal, there's mold on wood. I can toss the PCB mounting boards, but I can't toss this as is:

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    If I abruptly stop posting I most likely have died of some infection.

    Irem Madonnas are slightly better, but not a whole lot. Here's an inside pic:

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  • Cosmetics aside, I also drew a short stick on the monitors. I guess anyone who's smarter than me could have figured out that there's a reason why they're missing traditional control panels.

    They've been converted to video slot machines. What's the problem with that? Screens that are more or less static. I know full well what games these have been running, not by finding any of the boards inside, but by looking at the monitors:

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    ;(

Currently, all costs accounted for I'm at 5105,80 euros (without tax) for the 23 cabs. That's 222 euros each. It's not too bad, even with the wretched state they're in. We'll see where I'm at when all is said and done.
 

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man, that sounds like a nightmare. I hope you can fix so many as possible. Can you please elaborate what you plan to do with them? Do they go to a location? Are they spread among different people aka group by? In any case let us know how your restoration efforts (if any) go.
 
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