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[jassin000]

Kick harness connects the HAS to the arcade PCB, allowing for buttons 4,5,6 to forward to the DB15 port (aka a complete supergun controller pinout).

Failure to do this will also fail to provide buttons 4,5,6 to the DB15-to-Saturn adapter.

 

[RGB]

Kick harness connects the HAS to the arcade PCB, allowing for buttons 4,5,6 to forward to the DB15 port (aka a complete supergun controller pinout).

Failure to do this will also fail to provide buttons 4,5,6 to the DB15-to-Saturn adapter.

Not exactly, since the HAS can output up to 6 buttons via the JAMMA edge (it's designed so that there is no conflict with the 6th button, don't worry ), because there are games that don't make use of the kick harnesses (Atomiswave, MVS, multi-game PCBs and so on).

Just remember that you need a kick harness for the CPS1/2/3/ST-V and other systems that take buttons 4-6 via auxiliary connector instead of JAMMA, that's it.


About the HD-15:

Can’t you treat it as a direct connection to the OSSC without the need of SCART connectors?

You can, that's how I have my HAS connected with the OSSC, so far all my games have worked just fine. Now with the LPF on the newest HAS you can't even tell if the video is connected via the Scart (for which the OSSC can apply the LPF), or the HD-15.

I've just jumped on the recently re-opened pre-order, very excited!

I wondered if someone could clear something up for me. What would be the use case for the "8pin mini DIN to HD15 adapter PCB"? The description seems almost identical to the "HD15 adapter PCB" above it. Does it work in conjunction with this item? Looking at the pictures it looks like it converts the added VGA port back to a 8pin DIN, what would the advantage of this over the one on the base board? I've likely missed something very simple, apologies in advance!

Different form factor, the same function - both adapters simply output RGBS via the HD-15 connector. The reason there are two adapters is that:
1. The old HAS versions didn't use "modules", so the "8pin mini DIN to HD-15 PCB" is a workaround for owners of the old HAS.
2. Some people already own an 8pin mini DIN to 8pin mini DIN cable, so instead of adding a "HD-15 adapter PCB" to the HAS and using a VGA cable, they can use their 8pin mini DIN cable with that small "8pin mini DIN to HD-15 adapter PCB".
3. The "HD-15 adapter PCB" makes the HAS ~16.5mm taller, some people don't want that.

Also, does the HD15 adapter PCB fit underneath the plexiglass case of the HAS, or does this need to be removed to use it?

All modules/adapters fit underneath the plexiglass case of the HAS, they are supplied with extra spacers and bolts.

 

[jassin000]

Not exactly, since the HAS can output up to 6 buttons via the JAMMA edge

Never doubt the power of CHAMMA?

 

[RGB]

Not exactly, since the HAS can output up to 6 buttons via the JAMMA edge

Never doubt the power of CHAMMA?

Well, I consider dropping support for CHAMMA, it's just that many people ask me about Pandora's Box and similar PCBs. Tough choice and personally I despise CHAMMA

 

[ekorz]

Wow. Plugging a Pandoras Box into a HAS... never thought about that.

BECAUSE THAT'S A HORRIBLE IDEA.

 

[opt2not]

You can, that's how I have my HAS connected with the OSSC, so far all my games have worked just fine. Now with the LPF on the newest HAS you can't even tell if the video is connected via the Scart (for which the OSSC can apply the LPF), or the HD-15.

I'm going to try this. I'm currently running it through SCART, but I have the HD-15 add-on that I picked up from you in my last order. I assume I can just run my OSSC with the LPF for the VGA connection? The OSSC's LPF isn't only for the SCART Connection, is it?

 

[jassin000]

The OSSC's LPF isn't only for the SCART Connection, is it?

It IS!
That's what RGB is saying here...

Now with the LPF on the newest HAS you can't even tell if the video is connected via the Scart

The newest version of the HAS has its own LPF, so you don't miss the fact the OSSC's only works via SCART input (again, yet another reason why this should be your goto port for 240p content IMO).

 

[Plastic]

Wow. Plugging a Pandoras Box into a HAS... never thought about that.

BECAUSE THAT'S A HORRIBLE IDEA.

Yeah, that seems counter intuitive. Those pandora's boxes run like ass too.

 

[opt2not]

Great...now I have to consider upgrading my HAS again!! I just upgraded from V2.1 to V3.2 this passed November.

 

[jassin000]

now I have to consider upgrading my HAS again!! I just upgraded from V2.1 to V3.2 this passed November

All for that onboard low pass filter?
Don't get me wrong, its great that HAS has continued to evolve like this... A great device getting even greater over time!

I think you would be better off just getting that 8pin mini din to SCART adapter I linked and using the LPF of the OSSC itself tho.

 

[opt2not]

now I have to consider upgrading my HAS again!! I just upgraded from V2.1 to V3.2 this passed November

All for that onboard low pass filter?Don't get me wrong, its great that HAS has continued to evolve like this... A great device getting even greater over time!

I think you would be better off just getting that 8pin mini din to SCART adapter I linked and using the LPF of the OSSC itself tho.

Yeah i know it doesn't sound worth it, but my ultimate goal over the course of how ever long it'll take, is to eliminate the need to support SCART altogether.

I do currently have the 8pin Mini DIN to SCART adapter that RGB used to supply. It's very similar to the one you linked, but instead of the 3.5 mm mini stereo jacks, it has the Red and White RCA jacks.

But eventually I want to be SCART-free.

 

[jassin000]

But eventually I want to be SCART-free.

I do hear ya brother... I tried to fight the power that is SCART myself with 8 pin mini din.
Problem is the tide was just too strong, it wasn't that we were wrong.

Devices like the Hydra and GSCART sealed our fade/doom/whatever.
That being said, not much I've used as sweet as this 8 port auto switching SCART mega box called Hydra.

 

[AlxUnderBase]

CART mega box called Hydra.

Great products released comes from Poland !

 

[Audiophile]

Is there a way to check on the options that I entered when I went on the HAS preorder? For the life of me, I can't remember which one I spec'd out. I want to make sure that I have the right AV cable. Definitely excited because I already received my power supply and wired up the IEC power cord. Now focusing on AV.

 

[coderkind]

Just remember that you need a kick harness for the CPS1/2/3/ST-V and other systems that take buttons 4-6 via auxiliary connector instead of JAMMA, that's it.

Ok; so I don't need a kick harness if I want to connect to a Neo Geo MVS board?

Also, regarding the LPF on the latest HAS; can you disable it? My understanding is that you'd only really want it if hooking up to a modern, flatscreen? Otherwise it can soften an image (in theory).

 

[nam9]

Also, regarding the LPF on the latest HAS; can you disable it? My understanding is that you'd only really want it if hooking up to a modern, flatscreen? Otherwise it can soften an image (in theory).

I believe the changes to the LPF is the addition of an On/Off switch. Previous versions simply disabled the LPF altogether.

 

[RGB]

Ok; so I don't need a kick harness if I want to connect to a Neo Geo MVS board?

No, you don't. Additionally I advise to read the MVS instruction manual (as well as for other games you plan to use with the HAS). You'll see that it doesn't even have the connector for the "kicks".

Also, regarding the LPF on the latest HAS; can you disable it? My understanding is that you'd only really want it if hooking up to a modern, flatscreen? Otherwise it can soften an image (in theory).

I believe the changes to the LPF is the addition of an On/Off switch. Previous versions simply disabled the LPF altogether.

Correct, there's a switch for the LPF.

 

[moltomolto]

Hey @RGB is the "unavailable" status for the 3P4P adapter PCB correct? Would love to pick one up with the CPS2 harness if possible!

Bump. Does anyone know if it's still possible to order if we already have an HAS and not on current pre-order list?

 

[RGB]

I need to update the first post. I don't have anything in stock and the only way to pre-order is via my website.

 

[moltomolto]

Ah ok thanks. I actually put myself on the pre-order list a few months back but only for the adapter and harness. I guess pre-order list is only for new HAS owners?

Edit: I see the pre-order page accounts for existing owners, but I can't remember if I put that in the comments when I preordered, lol .