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Going from those pictures you took, it looks like someone at some point modified the control panel with American style joysticks and buttons. Which means it will not accept Sanwa or Seimitsu joysticks anymore, Japanese style buttons should still fit though.
 
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Going from those pictures you took, it looks like someone at some point modified the control panel with American style joysticks and buttons. Which means it will not accept Sanwa or Seimitsu joysticks anymore, Japanese style buttons should still fit though.
Derp, yeah, I didn't really look at the photos on my phone. That's not a modified panel, that's a whole new one, with fully Americanized button layout too. :/

This is where the more exotic cabs are tricky, it's not hard to get repro Sega panels, I've never seen anyone doing Cyberleads. Your options are just live with American panel or get a custom panel fabricated, unless you can get really lucky with a find.

Personally I couldn't live with that panel, I'd take it off, trace it, scan it, and built up a new one to be waterjet cut. That's not hard. Little trickier to figure out joystick mounting plates though.
 
Thanks Everyone.

Game Boards:
Saying we don't want to get Dark Soft yet, and we just want to be able to play a couple games, ie: Marvel vs. CAPCOM II for example, or Marvel vs. Street Fighter -- we just need the game board, correct? Like, the exact same thing as what is currently in the cab, which is Street Fighter II, we would need a board like that, for another game. Is this correct? Can someone send me a link as to where I can get these game boards. I see a lot of Pandora's Box' and untested game boards in the search results, as well as CPS2 game cartridges. But, assuming we don't want to get a CPS2, and just want to be able to use the existing CPS1, can I change out the Street Fighter II for a game that I just mentioned?

Joysticks/Buttons:
Interesting, thank you guys for noticing it was an Americanized button layout. We can definitely live with the existing panel, we just need to be able to get in there and clean it, but not having the key is making it difficult... so the links that Aurich sent for the buttons and joysticks, those won't work? Where can I find replacement buttons/joysticks for our Americanized version then?

Thanks guys!
 
Well the answer is yes you COULD convert your pcb to another CPS1 game but it was not designed for that and is a bit over your skill level. It would require swapping a bunch of chips. If you don't want to keep the CPS1 pcb you could probably leverage a trade with it since it is becoming more valuable for two reasons: 1-lots of people sacrificing it for conversions. 2-the CPS1 A-boards are dying at a brisk pace.

CPS2 was DESIGNED to have the game swapped and is therefore very simple to do. The only way you are going to play Marvel vs Street Fighter is on the CPS2 platform (or chinese multi cart, MAME but....yuck). As for Marvel Vs Capcom 2 that is on the Naomi system which is a whole other can of worms. Baby steps I think. Once you get the cab fully working you can go down that road. Marvel vs Capcom 1 is CPS2 however so you could do that easily.
 
Thanks Everyone.

Game Boards:
Saying we don't want to get Dark Soft yet, and we just want to be able to play a couple games, ie: Marvel vs. CAPCOM II for example, or Marvel vs. Street Fighter -- we just need the game board, correct? Like, the exact same thing as what is currently in the cab, which is Street Fighter II, we would need a board like that, for another game. Is this correct? Can someone send me a link as to where I can get these game boards. I see a lot of Pandora's Box' and untested game boards in the search results, as well as CPS2 game cartridges. But, assuming we don't want to get a CPS2, and just want to be able to use the existing CPS1, can I change out the Street Fighter II for a game that I just mentioned?
The games you listed all use completely different hardware and motherboards. I know picking up new games is exciting, but you should really focus on getting the monitor fully working before you buy any games. Monitors and parts are not cheap if there is a larger issue.

Here is the complete game list for CPS1. Most of the time when these games are up for sale, they will have both the A and B boards together. In the arcade hobby there isn't any such thing as a quick swap unless it is a multi board or mame setup. For the games you have been listing you will have to buy separate boards for each game.

Sorry for the direct opinion, but I want to make sure you get the best help as the others have been suggesting.

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=793
 
Mitsurugi-w: Thank you, that answers my question. So now I have some follow up questions to ask:

1. What is the benefit of keeping the CPS1? Other than the fact that we will hopefully be able to play the game that's already on there, Street Fighter II.

2. Can we have both the CPS1 and a CPS2 in there? So we can continue playing the Street Fighter II game (assuming it works), and be able to swap out games on the CPS2? Or can we only have one or the other?

3. So Marvel vs. CAPCOM II is only on the Naomi system? Someone said something about being able to play Naomi games on this system, but maybe not now since it's rewired for JAMMA?

Thank you!
 
The games you listed all use completely different hardware and motherboards. I know picking up new games is exciting, but you should really focus on getting the monitor fully working before you buy any games. Monitors and parts are not cheap if there is a larger issue.
Right, yes, we are working on getting the cab to work currently, but I want to get information on games beforehand, so we can be proactive in the mean time. We're not going to purchase anything until we know it works, but I need to know what to look for in terms of games, when that time comes. Our first priority is to get it work :thumbsup:
 
Maybe a better option would be putting a PC and running Grovymame in the cab.. This will give you a good test run of all the games except Naomi 31khz family..figure out what you really want and like then start hunting.

Also, CPS2 fighting games do not cost that much $130-150 depends on the game and seller..maybe that would be an option..then move on to a multi kit.. The thing about CPS2 games is that they run on batteries which is suggested to be replaced every 5-6 years..
 
Mitsurugi-w: Thank you, that answers my question. So now I have some follow up questions to ask:

1. What is the benefit of keeping the CPS1? Other than the fact that we will hopefully be able to play the game that's already on there, Street Fighter II.

2. Can we have both the CPS1 and a CPS2 in there? So we can continue playing the Street Fighter II game (assuming it works), and be able to swap out games on the CPS2? Or can we only have one or the other?

3. So Marvel vs. CAPCOM II is only on the Naomi system? Someone said something about being able to play Naomi games on this system, but maybe not now since it's rewired for JAMMA?

Thank you!
1. The benefit is Street Fighter 2: Champion Edition (You have the Japanese version called 'Dash) is my personal favorite of the SF2 Generation. ;) Plus it's a classic.

2. Yes. You could find a way to mound two pcbs in there and just swap the JAMMA connector around to switch games (with the power off!!)

3. Yes it is only for Naomi. You can play it on your setup though. You would need a Naomi motherboard, Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 cart, and a Capcom I/O. Though Naomi is JVS instead of JAMMA, the Capcom I/O converts it for use in a JAMMA cab and allows you to use the same kick harness as CPS2. If the CPS1 pcb in there already has the kick harness you can buy a CPS1 to 2 kick adapter from James at JammaNationX.com. Even easier.
 
1) The only benefit is you will be able to play Street Fighter 2, since that is the game on that board

2) In order to change to CPS2 you will have to unplug and remove the CPS1 board and install the CPS2 board instead, this is not at all difficult, unplug one and unscrew it from the wooden mounting plate, screw the new one down, plug it in. It sounds like the Darksoft multi concept is causing confusion here

To make it more clear: You can only have 1 board set in the cabinet at a time.

3) NAOMI can still be played in your JAMMA cabinet with an adapter. As others have suggested this is a little bit more advanced however so the first step would be to get the cabinet working.

I remember when I got my first cab and wanted to start buying all the games I played in the arcade as a kid, but you need a cabinet working to play them in first ;)

My suggestions when you do get it working and start looking into buying other games would be

1) Original is always better, a lot of people like the Pandora's Box things because they're convenient and for a lot of games they work ok, but there's nothing like the real thing

2) Research the prices that the game you want typically sells for. EBay is NOT a good price guide typically.

3) Know the potential pitfalls of the hardware you're looking at purchasing, you may love a game and really want it, but if it's known to have a lot of issues requiring constant attention (as 20-30 year old hardware sometimes can) and you can't repair it yourself, you could be spending a lot of money on something you're never going to be able to fully enjoy

4) Have a list of what you want and try to stick to it - pretty much everyone tries and fails at this at first, but eventually falls into a niche of games they really like and generally collect around that

5) Praise be to Darksoft and Mitsurugi
 
Where can I find replacement buttons/joysticks for our Americanized version then?
https://paradisearcadeshop.com/298-buttons-il-industrias-lorenzo
Those are American style buttons.

I'd need to see the joystick better before recommending anything, what's most important in your case is that it has mounting holes that are compatible with that panel.
Sanwa and Seimitsu can be ordered with the 5 pin connector or the spade connects and with all kinds of mounting panels. Worst case the mounting panels on the current sticks can probably be unscrewed and put onto the new sticks (I've done this)

I'll have a look today and see how you can remove the control panel without keys, I'm quite sure it can be done.
 
Thank you Everyone. Yes, getting the cab functioning properly is our number one goal, and we're working towards that with the help of all of you!

So according to Mitsurugi-w it is possible to have both the CPS1 and the CPS2 in there, and then xodaraP said that you can only have one board set in there at at time, so I'm a little confused here. If possible we'd like to have both mounted in there, and then switch between both (with power off) like Mitsurugi-w mentioned.

We do not want a Pandora's box type situation, because I've heard and seen videos on youtube of how crappy it really is. We don't need to be able to play a ton of games, just 2 or 3 is more than plenty!
 
Thank you Everyone. Yes, getting the cab functioning properly is our number one goal, and we're working towards that with the help of all of you!

So according to Mitsurugi-w it is possible to have both the CPS1 and the CPS2 in there, and then xodaraP said that you can only have one board set in there at at time, so I'm a little confused here. If possible we'd like to have both mounted in there, and then switch between both (with power off) like Mitsurugi-w mentioned.

We do not want a Pandora's box type situation, because I've heard and seen videos on youtube of how crappy it really is. We don't need to be able to play a ton of games, just 2 or 3 is more than plenty!
Yes you can easily leave one mounted on the board, while placing another inside something protective next the the other. A lot of people use the flat rate USPS boxes lined with bubble wrap. Just make sure you leave both sides open for air flow if the board has a fan involved, such as the CPSII motherboard. The games will both use the same JAMMA connection one at a time. For the fighting games, you will switch over the kick harness each time as well for the bottom buttons.
 
To clarify my post: As Mitsurugi and bradtemple mentioned you can physically have 2 boards in the cabinet and switch between them, however due to size constraints only 1 will fit onto the mounting board.

I personally wouldn't suggest having a second sitting in the bottom of the cabinet, as far as I'm concerned it's easy enough to change them over properly, but YMMV
 
Sanwa and Seimitsu can be ordered with the 5 pin connector or the spade connects and with all kinds of mounting panels. Worst case the mounting panels on the current sticks can probably be unscrewed and put onto the new sticks (I've done this)
Look at the panel hack on that thing, I'm guessing it has no mounting underneath at all, just the bolts running down from the top of the panel. So only going to be compatible with that bolt pattern. It's not the OEM panel.
 
True. But even if it has bolts in standard locations it should still be able to be adapted to work on a Seimitsu or Sanwa stick.

If not - a fabrication shop could cut a new one and I don't imagine it would be expensive. They'd probably just use an offcut that would otherwise be recycled.

I took some photos of my control panel and how it attaches to the cab, so hopefully this helps get it open:

Underneath the control panel itself are a whole mess of screw holes, 8 of these are actually attached to the body of the cabinet that the locks are also attached to - the rest I can't see. I assume because candy cabs are designed to take different control panels that the screw holes are for potential other panels that may have been able to attach. But if it has a screw in it, remove it and make sure you remember where it came from!

Photo here:

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On the inside of the control panel I've marked out where the screws are attaching the plastic control panel to the body of the cabinet as well as the nuts attaching the locking tangs of the cabinet to the locks themselves. If you can remove the plastic control panel surround, it is then very easy to deactivate the locks so they cease to remain an issue. In this photo you can also see above the control panel on the left is the JVS I/O board which attaches to the DMD marquee on top of the cabinet, the amplifier board is on the right with the RCA leads attached - this has the volume control on it to adjust sound on the cabinet. I'm not sure if your cabinet still has either or both of these since it's been converted, but given the memory card readers are still on it, there's a good chance it does.

If it does - PLEASE take a photo of the I/O board in your cabinet, I'm trying to figure out which I/O board version I have and I have a feeling it's associated with the memory card readers - so I'd be very interested to see if mine matches yours.

Photo here - and yes I am aware the body of my cabinet in this area is a little bit dirty and has some surface rust on it. It's a lot better than when I got it but I haven't wanted to mess around with the metal in the area since it's been coated in something I'm quite sure is poisonous as a rust inhibitor.

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And because I can - a vanity shot of my cab with reproduction marquee holder ;)

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